Magnetically powered motors w/o electricity

[nikolatesla]

I bought some magnets and other supplies, and made a copy of the device shown here;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=ch ... HBh0&gl=US

I have not been able to get it to work.
It is possible the video is a spoof.

That said, I would still bring to your attention the following;
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt11.html
and also here;
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/PJKbook.pdf (page 645)

Quote;

Joseph concluded that the attraction of “unlike” magnetic poles and the repulsion of “like” poles is caused by the gyroscopic spin direction of the actual physical streams of the “lines of force”, which he has shown that both of the scientific giants, Maxwell and Faraday were convinced were actual physical entities. The intuitive genius Nikola Tesla described the zero-point energy field as having the physical characteristics of a gas, capable of having motion, exerting pressure, and yet having particle size so small that it can flow through any physical material. Joseph has concluded that this field flow has a specific spin direction as it flows, certainly for flows caused by the magnetic dipole of a magnet. It should be remembered that the scientific teaching of present day educational institutions is at least fifty years out of date. We have the most unusual situation where the scientific literature of a hundred years ago is actually of better quality than that of today which does not describe the actual world at all well. Currently, misconception is alive and very well.

For example, Maxwell produced equations describing how the world works. Admittedly, these equations are very difficult for people to understand. Oliver Heaviside simplified these equations and his results are mistakenly described as Maxwell’s which they most certainly are not. Tom Beardon illustrates it this way; consider a sailing boat being driven along by the force of the wind against the sails:


Maxwell says that there is a vast swathe of wind blowing across the ocean, capable of powering a long row of a thousand sailing boats side by side. This is the actual physical case. Heaviside has ‘simplified’ things by saying “we will consider one boat and only one boat. As the rest of the wind does not touch any part of the boat we can ignore it”. While that is true for that one boat, what science teaching now says is that the wind can only power a single boat. This is not the actual case, as the environmental wind is not limited to powering just one boat (sailing regattas would not be much fun if that were the case!). This, of course, is just an illustration. Maxwell’s equations cover energy and power for the whole universe, and deal with all cases. Heaviside has taken a sub-set of the conditions described by Maxwell’s equations, just the group which apply to “closed systems” – just one boat on the ocean. Science has latched on to this and now confidently states that everything is a “closed” system, when in fact, as the zero-point energy field flows through everything, everywhere at all times, and is capable of supplying unlimited additional energy anywhere at any time, there is probably not a single instance of a “closed” system anywhere in the universe.

Joseph Newman, and all other serious inventors, have to fight against this “conventional” science teaching, which is now so entrenched that it has become the equivalent of religious dogma, and ‘scientists’ are unwilling to consider valid observations which do not fit in with the very limited Heaviside concept of the environment.

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So, don't give up.

[earls]

What part didn't work? You replicated it exactly?

[bdw000]

Thank you to everyone for your input.
Short Circuit movie robot: "More input, Stephanie!"

Okay, I gave a link to the video about the toy that worked on magnets, and it did appear to work.
Now let's pin a few thoughts down.

Here is the Perendev magnetic motor video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=ch ... ZSyw&gl=US

To bdw000; the idea that the Perendev motor would 'wear out' its magnets does not make sense to me.

The known ways for a neodymium magnet to lose its magnetic field effect are as follows, as per this FAQ;
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/faq.asp#temperature
Quote:

#23. Will neodymium magnets lose strength if they are held in repelling or attracting positions for a long time?
In most applications, the answer is simply "no". If the magnets will be exposed to higher temperatures while in repelling applications, the answer is "possibly". The exact answer is a bit too complicated for a FAQ answer, and requires specifics about the application.

Nikolatesla:
You could well be correct here. I am assuming that Perendev uses neodymium magnets (I don't know).

I am no expert on magnets. It looks like you have compelling reasons to doubt what I have been told.

I would still want a demo for myself. For magnets to be "held" in repelling positions is not quite the same as for magnets to experience many "oppositions" every second (perhaps a few hundred, at a guess). In electromagnetism, changing field strength is something with a few quirks of its own compared to constant field strength. That being said, I am certainly willing to doubt my friends information based on what you have posted here.

I do not deny that magnetic motors in general might be possible. It just seems like if something as simple as a Perendev motor really did work, it would be hard to suppress. My opinion of course.

[nikolatesla]

Please check out this video;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xQojoZ ... r_embedded
it appears to be a little more authentic than the one I first linked to.
it is the Stonehenge design.
it is reported that repulsive mag motors can in fact run down the magnets, but that this one runs on attractive force and so will not have that problem (i honestly don't know what they're talking about with that, but so they said).

My comments and thoughts on the little disk mag motor copy I made;
i used the following;
exact same kind of plastic lid for the spinner.
very similar toy motor in size, stuck to the spinner with adhesive called shoe-goo.
double-stick foam tape to hold the magnets in place.
a count of (12) size 1/8" by 3/16" neodymium magnets on the disk.
i used a single 1/2" by 1/2" neodymium magnet for the stator.
all brand-new magnets.

results were that the stator magnet would pull on the opposite pole rotor magnet ends from both sides, and push on the same pole ends from either side, resulting in an invisible 'cog action' and no rotational force, just net pull and push.
it wanted to not rotate. if spun, it stopped. if stopped it stayed stopped, no matter what i did with the stator mag.

my conclusion is that without some kind of 'shielding' (don't ask me what), the magnets cannot be made to work like little 'jet engines' and give directional push-pull, but act more like radio antenna broadcast 'lobes' that are difficult to harness for work.
these 'lobes' are similar to the lines of magnetic force that are made visible by iron filings near a magnet.
also similar to the radiance from an globular clear light bulb that cannot be 'shielded'.

i want to comment more on the Stonehenge mag motor in the above-linked video.
consider progressively faster comparative speeds of repulsive-attractive force:
the legs of a running man or animal.
an airplane propeller and the air it thrusts back.
a jet engine's exhaust gases.
a rocket engine's exhaust gases.
an artillery projectile or high-powered rifle bullet.
the speed of explosive force of an explosive substance, which can be thousands of feet per second.

compared to all these, i would guess that a magnet has a repulsive-attractive force of the speed of light.

that is whole magnitudes faster than all the others put together.
so even when they run slow, magnetic motors have disproportionately greater speed potential.
eliminate the air drag, lighten the parts, and you have some real speed potential.

i learned about the update on the Stonehenge mag motor through a report at http://www.rense.com.
supposedly some MIB (men in black, a.k.a. NWO goons) gave the experimenter a hard time.
well good luck to them, because they'll need it, because this data is all over the internet.
they might as well try to stop people from proving that the world is not flat by confiscating all experimental apparatus employed to observe the top of a ship's mast from over the horizon while the hull remains below it.

[nikolatesla]

here's the article linking to the youtube video about the Stonehenge mag motor, with remarks about MIBs;
http://pesn.com/2009/05/01/9501534_NSA_ ... _to_Mylow/

my further comments on magnetism in general;

magnetic force falls off quite rapidly with distance.
in most machinery and engines in general, clearances of a few thousandths of an inch are quite common, and the machines won't work or will tear themselves apart if they get too loose.
making a magnetic motor with big sloppy 1/2" gaps between the rotor and stator magnets is throwing away potential.
if it is going to work at all, a mag motor's power is most likely going to be maximized by striving for just a few hundredths or thousandths of an inch tolerances or clearances, where they almost touch but never do.

the Stonehenge motor is a peculiar creation.
it looks like the magnetic fields are interacting in some tangential way other than by repulsion or attraction.
but they say it runs by attraction, so i can't really say.

[linolino1]

Actually., It seems to me that youtube is full of unmolested videos showing magnetic motors that do not work. But when I look at them, I see they did not copy the plans correctly. Lots of 'evidence' that magnetic motors are a joke, and those videos discrediting the idea of a successful magnetic motor are being left alone




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