Static electricity

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Static electricity

Unread postby Royboy » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:56 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcksdXtqO3M
That's quite a charge built up by friction, no magnets to induce electric current, so where does it come from? atmosphere or Earth ?.
Reminds me of the time I worked at Waterlow & Sons, printers, Dunstable, Beds. It was necessary for me to walk past the carbon paper machines. Revolving rolls of paper, nowhere near as fast as the polythene in the vid. The charge was enough to raise my shoelaces and standing long enough, it would untie the the bows. Put a hand too close and Zap! you earthed it.
There's loads of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F109U6KpD3I
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Re: Static electricity

Unread postby MosaicDave » Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:01 am

Thanks for posting!

Several years ago I came upon a fascinating article relating to a plastic film slitting machine. Your post reminded me of it, and I was able to find it among my chaos of saved Firefox bookmarks. Happily it still works:

http://www.esdjournal.com/articles/final/final.htm

I feel this relates profoundly to Peter Thomson's ideas about charge sheath vortices and tornadoes. Here's his page:

http://peter-thomson.com/index.html

The layout of the page is a little unusual, but if you search for the text "sheath" or "vortex" on the page, you can find the links to his several sub-pages on the subject.

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Re: Static electricity

Unread postby LongtimeAirman » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:54 am

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Ahoy Royboy, I believe the consensus is - Static Electricity is still a mystery.

Here are two old TB posts on Static Electricity. Chromium6 provides many nice references in the first; I've lost several hours winding through them.

Static Electricity Defies Simple Explanation by Chromium6 » Sun May 18, 2014 10:32 am
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15057

Static electricity by rory88 » Thu May 28, 2015
viewtopic.php?t=15790

The main point – as I understand it – is mainstream’s inadequate explanations. I can say they haven't properly defined charge. The primary example is the continued belief that protons and electrons are equal and oppositely charged; based on the notion that atoms couldn't hold together otherwise.

There are many here with their own theories, myself included. Mine are based on Miles Mathis’ Charge field ideas. I would recommend;

316. Electron Bonding is a Myth. Molecular bonding explained by the charge field instead. 8pp. http://milesmathis.com/ionic.pdf.
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