Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?
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Grey Cloud
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by Grey Cloud » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:26 pm
Hi Alton,
You asked:
How many chariots are there?
Well, obviously one per planet or star.

If I have the least bit of knowledge
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.
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Plasmatic
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by Plasmatic » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:16 am
By the way Alton, Christians don't say "angels push the planets around just so", any more than atheists say that "the universe caused itself to come into existence from nothing". I've actually never heard of any such thing, the closest even remotely like that are Kepler's and Newton's own questionings about gravity. Kepler envisioned a solar force like arms reaching out from the sun to hold the planets in their orbits. Newton, in his "I fein no hypotheses" statement referred to the all pervasive holding force of the universe as "spirit". Aside from these I know of no Christians who believe angels propel the planets.
Hey Web its really not important but have you ever read the book of Enoch?
By the way I havent forgotten you in the other thread just too busy to post anything worth reading right now.

"Logic is the art of non-contradictory identification"......" I am therefore Ill think"
Ayn Rand
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
Aristotle
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