The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby moses » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:56 pm

All of the myths have star constellations in them. That is what Mathisen in saying.
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby Norman » Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:09 am

@Mo,
Yes, I noticed especially Mathisen´s example of Virgo and Bootes constellations.

When reading of the Virgo constellation myth - http://www.constellation-guide.com/cons ... tellation/ -

"The constellation Virgo is usually associated with the Greek goddess of justice, Dike. Dike was the daughter of Zeus and Greek Titaness Themis".

This mytho-cosmological description fits very well with my perception of the creation story and how everything in our Milky Way is created out from the Milky Way center, thus naming gendered star constellations as daughters and sons of the prime deities of creation.

Here, "Titans and Titanesses" represents the primeval forces of creation as mentioned earlier.
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby Norman » Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:14 am

Subject: The Naming of Planets.

The naming of the planets - From - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet#Myt ... and_naming
Quotes:

“The names for the planets in the Western world are derived from the naming practices of the Romans, which ultimately derive from those of the Greeks and the Babylonians".
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The original Greek planetary names derived from their natural appearances and motions.

1) Phainon , ”the shiner” = The later Roman Saturn
2) Phaethon, “bright” = The later roman Jupiter
3) Pyroeis “the fiery” = The later Roman Mars
4) Phosphoros, “the light bringer” = The later Roman Venus
5) Stilbon, “the gleamer” = The later Roman Mercury
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"In ancient Greece, the two great luminaries the Sun and the Moon were called Helios and Selene; the farthest planet (Saturn) was called Phainon, the shiner; followed by Phaethon (Jupiter), "bright"; the red planet (Mars) was known as Pyroeis, the "fiery"; the brightest (Venus) was known as Phosphoros, the light bringer; and the fleeting final planet (Mercury) was called Stilbon, the gleamer".

“Today, most people in the western world know the planets by names derived from the Olympian pantheon of gods. Although modern Greeks still use their ancient names for the planets, other European languages, because of the influence of the Roman Empire and, later, the Catholic Church, use the Roman (Latin) names rather than the Greek ones.

The Romans, who, like the Greeks, were Indo-Europeans, shared with them a common pantheon under different names but lacked the rich narrative traditions that Greek poetic culture had given their gods.

During the later period of the Roman Republic, Roman writers borrowed much of the Greek narratives and applied them to their own pantheon, to the point where they became virtually indistinguishable.

When the Romans studied Greek astronomy, they gave the planets their own gods' names: Mercurius (for Hermes), Venus (Aphrodite), Mars (Ares), Iuppiter (Zeus) and Saturnus (Cronus).

When subsequent planets were discovered in the 18th and 19th centuries, the naming practice was retained with Neptūnus (Poseidon). Uranus is unique in that it is named for a Greek deity rather than his Roman counterpart.
Some Romans, following a belief possibly originating in Mesopotamia but developed in Hellenistic Egypt, believed that the seven gods after whom the planets were named took hourly shifts in looking after affairs on Earth. The order of shifts went Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon (from the farthest to the closest planet)”.

My comment:
“Today, most people in the western world know the planets by names derived from the Olympian pantheon of gods. Although modern Greeks still use their ancient names for the planets, other European languages, because of the influence of the Roman Empire and, later, the Catholic Church, use the Roman (Latin) names rather than the Greek ones".

Today, most people in the western world know the planets by names derived from the Olympian pantheon of gods.

IMO, this is the main question of The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP. When using names of the Olympian pantheon of gods and goddesses in the hypothesis of "The Polar Configuration" and otherwhere, it of course is very important to investigate the mythological context and attributes as well as their astronomical locations and cosmological implications - and stick firmly to all these informations.

I don´t think such a firm focus on the context is the case in "The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP". The Roman naming of planets have confused scholars all over the world to believe in "once a different and alien sky" and "worlds in collisions". When transferring Olympian Deities (Read; The Milky Way deities) of creation to count for planetary matters, this of course distorts both the astronomical locations as well as the mythological meaning.

This is a great pity indeed, because if connecting the contents of specific creation myth to the correct celestial object and it´s celestial motion, this could provide a HUGE scientifical support for the (scientific) Electric Universe. A support which hardly couldn´t be rejected by the main street science, as it is the case for the time beeing.

Read of the Olympian Pantheon here - http://www.crystalinks.com/olympians.html - and try to fit their precise specifics to planets.

Read also - Planet – Mythology and naming - http://emereo.net/success/planet-mythology-and-naming/

What are your thoughts on this matter?
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby Norman » Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:55 am

Subject: Images of the Polar Configuration.

North and South.02.Horizontal.jpg

Except from 3-4 month in the summer period of the seasons, the star constellations and the (here unfolded) Star Atlas contours of the Milky Way contours can be observed seemingly revolving around the celestial poles on both hemispheres.
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The northern crescent looking hemisphere contours showing the Milky Way contours and the star constellations.
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The Egyptian god Seth.

The Milky Way god of fertility as perceived by the Egyptians.
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A Swedish Rock Art figure showing the somewhat stylistic scenario of a revolving man in the Sky. The so called "sun-wheel" is of course not a such, but the Wheel of the celestial pole.
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Another Swedish Rock Art figure with carved stars in a circle, representing both the revolving Milky Way figure and the revolving stars around the center dot = the Pole Star.
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Again: Another Swedish Rock Art figure with carved concentric ring and stars in a circle, representing both the revolving Milky Way figure and the revolving stars around the center dot pole star, here placed very close to the actual location compared to the Milky Way figure in the night Sky.

(The Earth rotational axis moves by 1 degree for every 71.6 years in the precessional movement, constantly changing the markings for a pole star.)
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A Swedish Rock Art figure which shows the best possible eyesight power details of the Milky Way man figure.
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Sweden and Egypt meets by this very detailed Rock Art figure and image of the Egyptian god, Seth. Even minor details of the headdress and the Ankh symbol attribute and even the bended snout, fits together.

When thinking of the Roman god, Saturnus and his creative powers and attributes and the telling of the Saturnalia ritual, there are no doubts in my mind which (omni)-potent celestial figure we are talking about, namely the Milky Way god of the northern hemisphere which STILL can be observed today on a favorable darker period of the seasons.

Note: All Rock Art images are copies made by charcoal paper rubbings on the rock surface.
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby nick c » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:10 am

Norman, do you have your own website?
If so, could give a link?
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby Norman » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:34 am

@nick c,
I´ll provide everything what´s needed here in the topic. If you have any questions regarding the topic and its subjects, then just ask.
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby kevin » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:44 am

Fertility,
And I would offer the male penis highlighted in the hill figures of England.

But I would suggest it takes two to tango.

That two been opposite spin.

I have been to the location of many of those hill figures, and detected the reason they are there.
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby Norman » Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:09 pm

@Kevin,
Yes, the white hill figures - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_figure - fits very well with the whitish Milky Way figures and even star constellations.
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby kevin » Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:36 pm

Norman wrote:@Kevin,
Yes, the white hill figures - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_figure - fits very well with the whitish Milky Way figures and even star constellations.

As above, so below.
In the geometry of a fixed solid, the largest is exactly the self same as the smallest.
The geology is central, especially limestone.
Coccolithophore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccolithophore
Their scales resemble UFO
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A central point with fanned out vectors around 360 degrees.
The limestone is still reacting to that which made it( symbiotic), the circuler nature with a central pillar looks ever
so much similer to so called meteorite basins, nes pas?

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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby Norman » Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:30 pm

@Kevin,
I´m not a geological or UFO expert, so I`ll stick to my mythological "stick figures" :D
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby seasmith » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:30 pm

@@Norman,
Comment: You see? 2 goddesses, different cultural periods but the same goddess. Athena daughter of Zeus, born without a mother = a primeval goddess. And Venus born out of Zeus´forehead or from the sea = a primeval goddess. (Here the "sea" refers to the "foam of the Milky Way" which also is called "the Heavenly River").


Not "same godess". {Or maybe you have a different concept of what Is a goddess?).
You have violated your own stated principle by confusing "cultural layers".
Athene is an ~aspect of the primal female (yin) principle.
Later Roman Venus is an amalgamation of 'goddesses'.
Beware of wiki ;)


Regarding "the astro-ology" of the heavens, it is my opinion that both physical and spiritual observations and inspirations "of everything above and below" constituted the ancient knowledge.


I agree
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby Influx » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:22 pm

postby moses » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:23 pm

First we need to decide whether the similarity of myth world-wide is due to some spiritual-type perception, or due to an advanced ancient communication.


Wouldn't it be more rational or logical to assume that the similarity between myths separated by distance is because the cultures that made the myths, observed the same exact events? Why do we need to invent something more complicated explanation?
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby Cargo » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:47 pm

Norman wrote:Subject: The Naming of Planets.
...snip...

What are your thoughts on this matter?


What a great post. Thank you.

It is obvious really. The 'age' of things is not what we think. Jupiter was a secondary Sun and both destroyed and created other bodies in the sky over unknown and likely generational human time spans. Since life progressed as it does under these displays of the sky, it became known that if you didn't eat your meat, Zues might strike you with a bolt and bury your town with volcanic electric plasma fury.

Combine this thought with the equally obvious fact that Dinosaurs are mechanically and physically impossible on today's Eden, and you can paint a stark picture of what is really at stake for modern human understanding when the EU electric shock therapy pinches down on the beliefs and faith of today's history.
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby Norman » Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:46 am

@seasmith,
You replied:
Not "same godess". {Or maybe you have a different concept of what Is a goddess?).
You have violated your own stated principle by confusing "cultural layers".
Athene is an ~aspect of the primal female (yin) principle.
Later Roman Venus is an amalgamation of 'goddesses'.
Beware of wiki ;)

I think we maybe have different goddess concepts. Read and compare these goddesses:
Athene - http://www.theoi.com/Olympios/Athena.html
Aphrodite/Venus - http://www.theoi.com/Olympios/Aphrodite.html

I´m not more sceptical over wikipedia than other encyclopedia. Much the same mytho-cosmological confusions are written all over the place because of lacking astronomical observations and insights.
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Re: The Mythical Interpretations in the TBP

Unread postby Norman » Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:25 am

@Influx,
You replied and asked:
Influx wrote:postby moses » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:23 pm

First we need to decide whether the similarity of myth world-wide is due to some spiritual-type perception, or due to an advanced ancient communication.


Wouldn't it be more rational or logical to assume that the similarity between myths separated by distance is because the cultures that made the myths, observed the same exact events? Why do we need to invent something more complicated explanation?

I somewhat agree, but I´m a bit sceptical of the "same global event observations", because many myths are interpreted as "same global events" instead of "the same seasonal and celestial observations" which IMO give origin the similar global Myths of Creation.

For instants is the global "Flood Myth" interpreted as a huge catastrophic event on the Earth, but when connecting this myth to the celestial river of the Milky Way, which runs all around the Earth, this provides quite another mytho-cosmological meaning.

Having said this though, I also believe in spiritual inspirations of everything, a al the shamanistic traditions.
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