Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:07 pm



Charles Chandler has what I think is the best explanation of the cause of Earthquakes at http://qdl.scs-inc.us/9981 . I'd like to see his material get published somewhere like at http://NCGT.org . I don't know what NCGT members' main view on plate motions is. Is it possible to doubt that plates exist and move against each other? Charles' model says the plate motions cause quakes electrically.
See GPS—Measuring Plate Motion https://www.iris.edu/hq/files/programs/ ... ground.pdf

I asked Charles: Do you think plate motions are the only cause of earthquakes? What about earthquakes in the Himmalayas? Do plate motions reach there?

IRIS may be a good site to do searches on geology articles. Incorporated Research Institutions for Seismology https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/search#type=1

There's a video at the following link that considers deep quakes under the Aleutians to be evidence of subduction of continental crust to great depths. I asked Charles: What do you make of that data? I asked because I don't think he accepts subduction as real. I know I don't.
Alaska: Tectonics and Earthquakes https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animati ... arthquakes

The following links also include videos that may be of interest.
Continental Collision: India-Asia
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animati ... _indiaasia
Earthquake Early Warning: Pacific Northwest subduction zone
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animati ... ction_zone
Gulf of California: Earthquakes & Tectonics
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animati ... _tectonics
Pakistan: Earthquakes and Tectonics
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animati ... _tectonics
Peru-Chile Subduction Zone: Earthquakes & Tectonics
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animati ... _tectonics
Seismic Eruption: Worldwide Earthquakes & Volcanoes 1960-2007
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/animati ... s_19602007

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by seasmith » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:16 pm

Hi Lloyd, That four-digit number on the end of Charle's website address above seems to mess up the link.

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:27 pm

Thanks, SeaSmith. I actually left out a few characters. It should be http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=9981

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:07 pm


Earth's magnetic field may be headed for a cataclysm says latest French study
https://www.sott.net/article/402731-Ear ... ench-study

Supernovae may have killed off large animals at dawn of Pleistocene
https://www.sott.net/article/402704-Sup ... leistocene

We still don't know why the reign of the dinosaurs ended
https://www.sott.net/article/402909-We- ... aurs-ended

Fireball that exploded over Greenland shook Earth, triggering seismic sensors
https://www.sott.net/article/402821-Fir ... ic-sensors

Data from Kilauea suggests the eruption was unprecedented
https://www.sott.net/article/402858-Dat ... recedented

Stonehenge Scandal: Damage at Blick Mead | Ancient Architects

Mesopotamian Origins of Ancient Egypt | Ancient Architects

Freak Firestorms & Fall of Phaeton / Hyakutake to Hendaye -Cosmography101-4.3 w/ Randall Carlson '06

Holocene Impacts & Burckle Crater Initial Reporting –Cosmography101-5.1 w/ Randall Carlson (Nov ‘06)

Chevrons, Cometary Parade & Cosmic Close Calls –Cosmography101-5.2 w/ Randall Carlson ‘06

The 12,000 Year old Comet that Landed on TEDTalks…and Erased Ancient Civilization - Greenland Crater

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:21 pm


Saturn's rings are raining at faster rate than previously thought
https://www.sott.net/article/403162-Sat ... ly-thought

Water in Saturn's rings surprisingly like that on Earth, except for moon Phoebe
https://www.sott.net/article/403289-Wat ... oon-Phoebe

A big space crash likely made Uranus lopsided
https://www.sott.net/article/403403-A-b ... s-lopsided

Cave in China makes carbon dating more precise
https://www.sott.net/article/403066-Cav ... re-precise

‘Treasure trove’ of dinosaur footprints found in southern England
https://phys.org/news/2018-12-treasure- ... thern.html

A Scientist Claims The World’s Oldest Pyramid Is Hidden in an Indonesian Mountain
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-world- ... ists-claim

A year later, not a word on Alaska paper in Nature with evidence for repeated cataclysm
https://cosmictusk.com/alaska-muck-hibb ... tastrophe/

Greenland icebergs may have triggered Younger Dryas
https://cosmictusk.com/younger_dryas_ic ... tha_comet/

Saginaw Impact Structure
- http://www.cintos.org/SaginawManifold/Timing/index.html
- https://cosmictusk.com/wp-content/uploa ... sm-002.pdf

Mystery History video links
- https://forum.freestateproject.org/inde ... #msg300971
- http://cnps.boards.net/thread/51/mystery-history

The Hidden History Of The Human Race [which Youtube seeks to suppress] -- Mystery History

Exposing Mans Hidden Past ~ A Mystery History Special
- https://youtu.be/Yc4PGemz8I0
- (Transcript) https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2P ... CuCxCX/pub

The Persepolis Plateau Iran's Antediluvian Jewel's (Part 1) -- Mystery History

Iran's Most Astonishing Antediluvian Ruins (Part 2) -- Mystery History

'One of a Kind' Untouched Tomb Discovered in Egypt | Ancient Architects

Alchemist Clues on Cyclic Cross of Hendaye -Cosmography101-5.3 w/ Randall Carlson 11/06

Wal Thornhill: Blockbuster – Saturn/Earth Connection Confirmed

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:21 pm


NASA's 'New Horizons' probe detects weird anomaly days ahead of Ultima Thule flyby
https://www.sott.net/article/403470-NAS ... hule-flyby

Earth enters densest stream of deadly Taurid meteor cluster this June (also discusses Bennu)
https://www.sott.net/article/403663-Ear ... -this-June

Earth loses hundreds of tons of atmosphere during auroras
https://www.sott.net/article/403429-Ear ... ng-auroras

Ice cores could solve cosmic ray mystery
https://www.sott.net/article/403721-Ice ... ay-mystery

Unpredicted Discovery: Why Is Iron So Highly Oxidized Deep Inside The Earth? Geoscientists Are Surprised [They assume it'f from 550km deep, but it's probably from only 1km or so, since tech can't go very deep yet]
http://www.messagetoeagle.com/unpredict ... surprised/

Oumuamua's Strange Acceleration and Other Anomalies - Thunderbolts.info
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr0LX8VVCHI
- https://youtu.be/YJgpFDU4dwE

Paleoburrows dug by ancient ground sloths [Did the soil harden into rock? If so, how?]
- http://revistapesquisa.fapesp.br/en/201 ... or-giants/
- http://www.messagetoeagle.com/prehistor ... dentified/

10 Ancient Surfaces With Rare Images And Carvings [includes Younger Dryas Impact info]
http://demo-top10-mix.aobrien.org/2018/ ... -carvings/

This is What Ancient Civilizations said about Giants Existing on Earth

Secrets of the Nebra Sky Disc | Ancient Architects

Gunung Padang: Ancient Lost Pyramid or Modern Hoax? [uncertain] | Ancient Architects

End Days Clues from Cyclic Cross Monument -Cosmography101-5.3 w/ Randall Carlson 11/06

Double Catastrophe Imminent? Decoding Occult Symbols -Cosmography101-6.2 w/Randall Carlson '06

Recent Catastrophes; Rise/Fall of Civilizations / Learn by Repetition –Cosmography101-6.1 w/ RC '06


Potential Younger Dryas impact sites

No One Knows Who Built These Ancient Structures

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:32 pm


Catastrophic galactic collision could send Solar System flying into space
https://phys.org/news/2019-01-catastrop ... space.html

Why is Earth missing a huge part of its crust? [Ans? Continental crust came from transgressions (tsunamis); missing crust was removed by regressions (retreats)]
https://www.sott.net/article/403962-Why ... -its-crust

Sahara swung between lush and desert conditions every 20,000 years [False uniformitarian assumption? dust was cataclysmic, not gradual]
https://www.sott.net/article/404174-Sah ... n-activity

‘Ripped’ Woman with Massive Forearms Is the Oldest Known Human Burial in Lower Central America
https://www.livescience.com/64403-oldes ... erica.html

Ancient Relics That Are SO Advanced They Shouldn't Exist

The Emerald Tablets and the Great Pyramid of Egypt | Ancient Architects

Ancient Origins of the Sphinx Temple of Egypt | Ancient Architects

Who Were The Neoliths? 3rd Lost Civilisation Discovered? Mystery History

Epoch-ellipse Preferred Survival Plan / Symbolic Clues -Cosmography101-6.3 w/ Randall Carlson 11/06

5 Scientific FACTS that prove the Great flood actually happened! (younger dryas impact crater)

Younger Dryas Impact Black Mat Layer - Eastern US Covered In Ice B4 Greenland Ash

Hudson Bay Younger Dryas Impact Crater - Greenland Hiawatha Glacier

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:09 pm



Mike someone on this forum sent me a link to a video. I just happened to see part of the same video the day before. It's called "Causes of the Ice Ages" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS_yq19Af-s . See e.g. at 18 min. re solar nova fission tracks in Moon dust. However, I believe it's better evidence that Saturn went nova a few thousand years ago and caused that dust, as claimed by the Saturn Theory. The video channel has a number of videos, but this one may be of most interest. A coming video, part 4, may be good too.

The author claims that the Sun goes nova every 12,000 to 16,000 years, I think. And he says the next nova is due in less than 30 years. But I think he misinterprets the evidence. He judges by magnetic reversals, for one thing, but those more likely occurred over very short time spans, i.e. hours. Distinti showed that the magnetism in the previously magnetized strip of seafloor magma had a stronger influence than the polar magnetism on the magnetism of the next strip of magma, causing the next strip to have a reverse polarity. The magma strips formed as the continents moved apart due to the great impact off east Africa, as explained at http://NewGeology.us .

The above video seems to suggest that the fission tracks in lunar dust prove that the material that formed them came from the Sun, but I didn't see any explanation that they had to come from the Sun and could not have come from Saturn. Brown dwarf stars are known to go nova, but I don't think sun-like stars are known to do so.

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:39 pm


More on Novas

I just have a little to add to the previous message: Causes of the Ice Ages [See at 18 min.: solar nova fission tracks]

Vogt thinks the Sun goes nova every few thousand years. Here's some slight evidence in support of that possibility.

Solar Flares: Origin and Threat to Our Civilization
_Considering new records of superflares of Sun-like stars and terrestrial records of possible
“paleo-solar-flares”, we must conclude that our Sun seems capable of producing giant solar
flares 10 to 100 times as strong as the Carrington event. In view of this solar flares emerge as
the possibly greatest threat to modern life on planet Earth.
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... vilization

Some Nova-like Characteristics of Solar Flares
http://adsbit.harvard.edu//full/1951PAS ... 3.000.html

Here are some counterclaims from EU.

Not So Super Nova
https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2018/0 ... uper-nova/

Survivor of Super Nova
http://www.thunderbolts.info/~thundes2/ ... =3&t=17062

(Nova) Burning Bright
https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2018/0 ... -bright-2/

Site search for Saturn Flare. EU proponents found that Saturn likely flared like a nova and caused the beginning of global cataclysms.
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3A ... re&ie=&oe=

Here's an alternative take on EU theory for novas.


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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:41 am

Catastrophic Flares

Before I post the weekly news update, here's more material related to the previous two posts. The following linked article discusses recent videos by Ben Davidson, who has spoken at an EU Conference. This article mentions evidence of periodic devastating solar flares, similar to the claim by Vogt in the previous posts. That's in the first part of the article. The latter part goes on to predict a similar catastrophic flare in the near future based on nonsense testimony from supposed people from the future. I still believe the flares in ancient times were from Saturn, not the Sun, as ancient myths strongly suggest that Earth was a moon of Saturn. The links to Davidson's videos are likely to have useful data. The rest seems to be intentional scare tactics/propaganda, similar to the scare tactics of "global warming" and others.

Impending Solar Flash Event Supported by Scientific Studies & Insider Testimony
https://www.exopolitics.org/impending-s ... testimony/

Here are Ben Davidson's recent videos:

Earth Catastrophe Cycle | SOLAR MICRONOVA

Earth Catastrophe Cycle | SOLAR MICRONOVA:

Recurring Nova Z-Pinch, Cyclone | S0 News

Strangest Meteor, Polar Vortex, Ancient Solar Blast | S0 News Jan.5.2019

Earth Catastrophe Cycle | Star-Metal Impactors

Tight CME, Major Blizzard, Proof of Nova Glass | S0 News

Earth Catastrophe Cycle | Good Questions

Most-Repeating Nova Discovered, Cold Records | S0 News Jan.10.2019

Magnetic Pole Reversal Acceleration, Top News | S0 News Jan.11.2019

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:17 am


New study reveals dinosaur killing Chicxulub asteroid caused a global mile high tsunami
https://www.sott.net/article/404438-New ... gh-tsunami

Earth's water & chlorine from a Saturnian flare
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... =4&t=17218

10 Amazing Crop Circles That Have Left Authorities Stunned

Ben Davidson's Channel re Cyclic Micronovas etc [Some titles shown in previous post]

Sigiriya (Ravana's Palace) - Incredible Ancient Technology Found in Sri Lanka?

Catastrophe holds key to Historical Mysteries / Survival strategy? -CosmoG101-28.3 R Carlson 9/08

How the Younger Dryas Climate Event Influenced Prehistoric Humans | Human Origin Project

CIA AstroTurfing Younger Dryas Impact - Diehold Foundation is COINTELPRO [See post on Vogt recently above]

Wal Thornhill: The Saturn/Earth Connection and Our Place

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:39 pm


Earth may be in the middle of a giant asteroid spike
https://www.sott.net/article/405282-Ear ... roid-spike

Scientists find increase in asteroid impacts on ancient Earth by studying the Moon
https://phys.org/news/2019-01-scientist ... mpact.html

Archeological dig along Detroit River unearths 30,000 indigenous artifacts
https://m.metrotimes.com/news-hits/arch ... -artifacts

Saginaw Bay fingered by gravity data as ice impact feature
https://cosmictusk.com/michael_davias_s ... er_impact/

YouTube wisdom on Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis

Earth Catastrophe Cycle | Plasma Formations (Rock Art etc) (Seems to be a Fear Campaign)

5 Clues Humans Actually COEXISTED With Dinosaurs

Recent Revelations At Puma Punku In Bolivia October 2018

Building the Pyramids of Egypt with Artificial Stones

Is The Younger Dryas Cosmic Impact Hypothesis About To Be Confirmed?

36,420 BC: Zep Tepi & the Age of the Giza Monuments | Ancient Architects

Rare Ancient Stone Circle Discovered in Scotland | Ancient Architects

The Mysterious Artefacts of the Great Pyramid of Egypt | Ancient Architects

Tomb of Marc Antony and Cleopatra to be found in 2019 + New Discovery | Ancient Architects

The Lost Ancient Egyptian Observatory of Letopolis | Ancient Architects

Astonishing Discoveries Made At Bosnian Pyramid? - Mystery History

Chinese Found Lost Civilisations Star-Maps? - Mystery History

Builders of Ancient Peru Found 800 Foot Deep In Cave? - Mystery History

Impossible Stone Found At-top Cholas Temple? - Mystery History

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:48 pm


Planetary collision that formed the moon made life possible on Earth [except the Moon probably arrived only a few thousand years ago after life was well established]
https://www.sott.net/article/405687-Pla ... e-on-Earth
[See http://www.catastrophism.com/intro/sear ... t%5B%5D=-1 ]

Moon rock recovered by astronauts likely originated on Earth
https://phys.org/news/2019-01-moon-reco ... earth.html

Newly Discovered Ancient Funeral Mask May Be Part Of A Valuable Sunken Treasure
https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2019/01/ ... -treasure/

Trojan War by Baltic Sea, not Mediterranean
https://www.centrostudilaruna.it/homer- ... mmary.html

Did Ancient Giants Once Exist?

Mysteries of Archaic America: Earth-works -Cosmographic Research w/ Randall Carlson '08

Sekhmet Roar = Airburst Impact - Younger Dryas Comparative Mythology - Aker

The Great Temple of Heliopolis & the Pyramids of Egypt | Ancient Architects

Pre-Dynastic Tombs Discovered in Ancient Egypt + 2019 Finds So Far | Ancient Architects

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:49 pm


See 2016 Russian Video on How to Melt Stone with Sound at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsqOLCXYznE
The opening sentence of the video mentions study of John Keely's findings. It shows how sound vibrations can be used to vibrate a metal pipe nipple to cut a hole in solid stone. Apparently, metal of various shapes can be vibrated against stone to cut any shape desired. This may be how stone was shaped in ancient times by advanced civilizations. As an aside, Joseph Davidovits found that many of the Great Pyramid blocks may have been formed like concrete blocks from mortar that was poured into molds then hardened.

The end of the video gives these websites: http://InfraFon.ru - http://Djed.su - http://SoftElectro.ru/scirocco.html - http://SVPWiki.com

Here's a brief excerpt from the third site, which suggests that the Great Pyramid was a power plant. Some Russians seem to have made some major detailed findings.

Re: Queen's Chamber, Great Pyramid
This is translated from Russian at http://softelectro.ru/scirocco.html#M1

"Resonator chamber on six frequencies (Tsaritsa’s camera). [Tsaritsa's = Queen's; camera = chamber] This [chamber] is a controlled infrasound resonator at six frequencies. It is located in the geometric center of the pyramid, which allows you to very efficiently convert the energy received by the pyramid from the wind. The [chamber] is powered by a variable energy potential generated by a resonant amplifier. Therefore, the [chamber] feed channels were closed with granite lenses, through which the infrasound passes better than through the air. The thickness of the granite plugs regulated the phases of the infrasonic waves coming through the supply channels. The entrances to these channels were discovered by tapping and subsequently opened."

Here's a little more from the same page, which has lots of pictures and commentary.
"Fig.112. Map of the location of dolmens on Earth.
There were a lot of dolmens.
In the Caucasus, more than 3,000 residues of dolmens are known, in France more than 4,500.
************* Advanced **************
Experience with dolmen model Watch Video [ http://softelectro.ru/dolmen01.mp4 ]
Main article: Dolmens [ http://softelectro.ru/dolmen.html ]"

Lots of images of ancient artifacts here: http://djed.su/drevnaya-istoriya-1/
They seem to be mostly Egyptian, 24 pages in all with many pictures on each page. Click on the page numbers near the top of the page. The site has articles on mythology, which are conventional, it looks like, so they have a lot to learn from Catastrophists.

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:14 am


Existence of alien life 'much more likely than previously thought'
https://www.sott.net/article/406343-Exi ... NASA-admin

Lunar craters reveal rate of asteroid impacts tripled 290 million [or 5,000?] years ago
https://www.sott.net/article/406019-Lun ... -years-ago

Modern Humans Reached Spain Earlier Than Thought
https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/MAG ... -1.6873003

Humans colonized diverse environments in Southeast Asia and Oceania during the Pleistocene
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 122236.htm

Ancient Civilizations News
https://www.sciencedaily.com/news/fossi ... lizations/

Ancient Civilizations Image Collection by Cynthia Mickens
https://www.pinterest.com/cynthiamicken ... lizations/

DR CHARLES DISCOVERS A "COMET TAIL" around Earth responsible for "UFO" appearances

The CHINESE KEY to open 'ANY ANCIENT MONUMENT' can no longer be denied

BORE STONE WITH SOUND [May be how stone was sometimes shaped in ancient times]
- For more details see http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 54#p126454

7 Oldest Civilizations in the World

Discovery: Ancient Pre-Inca Peruvian Death Mask from 12,000 BC? | Ancient Architects

This is How They Built the Inca Stone Walls | Ancient Architects [It was done by the Incas, not a more advanced ancient civilization. That means the only evidence left of advanced ancient civilization is machining of hard stone, hollowed out hard stone structures like Petra and ancient maps, right?]
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KbSFphHCZY&t=924s
- http://www.academia.edu/37497925/On_the ... ne_masonry

The Channel Is Being Attacked In An Attempt To Destroy It | Mystery History

Ancient Megalithic Sites Near Cusco Peru That You Likely Have Never Heard Of | Brien Foerster

More Evidence That Cusco Was An Ancient Megalithic City Before The Arrival Of The Inca People | Brien Foerster

Megalithic Petra In Jordan: 12 Kilometer Long Ancient Enigmatic Site | Brien Foerster

Exploring Ancient Megalithic Anomalies Near Lake Titicaca In Peru And Bolivia | Brien Foerster

Paracas Peru | Brien Foerster

Paracas in Peru | Brien Foerster

Is The Younger Dryas Cosmic Impact Hypothesis About To Be Confirmed? | ArchaeoLogic
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ZAKjmk4-0
- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoylXK ... IVA/videos

Ancient CATACLYSM According To The Ancients! - What WIPED OUT Advanced Ancient Civilizations?
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F64tj5XcY_8

10,800 BC Impact Tsunami: Survivors - Columbia & Ecuador Mountains - Pyramids - Stone Carvings


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