I don't agree with lots of this, as I view things differently....
https://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/103
Instead of the magnetic field been created by the spinning Earth, I consider the opposite, that the field varies the consequences as it is varied from huge external influences....thus altering temperature etc.
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
At the Göbekli Tepe site, obvious signs of machining on some of the rocks must make us wonder about the history we presently are taught. That similar machine tool evidence is found in Egypt, Japan and Peru and likely other locations can not be explained by mainstream, so they don't even try.
Turkish megaliths part 1 of 3, Göbekli Tepe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y22YMN4goxk
Seems to me that there were advanced civilisations all over the world at one time, or perhaps many times, but the last big event would likely be the ~13 kya one, but was that also the time of the great flood, or did that come later?
Turkish megaliths part 1 of 3, Göbekli Tepe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y22YMN4goxk
Seems to me that there were advanced civilisations all over the world at one time, or perhaps many times, but the last big event would likely be the ~13 kya one, but was that also the time of the great flood, or did that come later?
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
Advanced Ancient Civilization
Dating the Great Flood
If you read some of those posts around page one, you'll see some evidence there that the timing of the Great Flood was very likely about 4300 years ago and that remnants of the former advanced civilization remained after the flood, but was not sustainable. It was the apparent source of the many ancient maps that remain highly accurate in many cases, despite having been copied from former documents. It mentions a satellite in Earth orbit that was not known to have been placed there by any modern country. There's also mention of artifacts of advanced civilization found in numerous places around the globe, often in strata that are thought to be hundreds of millions of years old, such as in coal seams. That's another reason that it's most likely that the strata were nearly all laid down at the same time recently via tsunamis. And many strata from top to bottom also contain craters or astroblemes, apparently from asteroid impacts, which likely caused the tsunamis, or probably one of the planets, Venus or Mars, caused them due to too close approach/es.
If the strata were deposited during the Great Flood about 4,300 years ago, then the dating of strata before that is wrong, because it's based on wrong assumptions, i.e. that the strata were laid down gradually over millions of years. The fact that there's little erosion between conforming strata shows that they were laid down together. The unconformities are where tsunamis calmed down for a while, probably for about a month between each unconformity and each tsunami probably lasted a few days, laying down the strata between unconformities, while one of the planets was at its perigee, i.e. closest approach to Earth in orbit around the Earth. I say this is probable, because it's unlikely that there were recurring close approaches by the same or different planets. Even if there were a few hundred or thousand years between encounters with the same planet or two or more planets, I think there are only about 5 unconformities in all, so that would only extend the cataclysms back a few thousand years, not millions of years.
Flood before Supercontinent Breakup
I believe the flood actually occurred a few hundred years before the impact occurred that split up the supercontinent, because the flood had to deposit the strata on the supercontinent before it broke up, because the opposite shores of the Atlantic match up very well, not just the shapes of the continents, but also the types of rock strata and fossils match up on the opposite shores. That's why Gray Cloud is likely wrong in saying there was no supercontinent. I'm guessing he doubts it because continental drift seems improbable, maybe because of subduction and conventional explanations. But, if a major impact broke up the supercontinent, for which there's good evidence at http://NewGeology.us , the continents that moved most, namely the Americans, Australia and Antarctica (and India), would have been able to slide over the Moho layer with very little friction and subduction would not be needed. Instead, one plate just rides over another, i.e. the American plates of the Pacific plate. The fact that there are countless fossils of mammoths and other mammals in the Arctic suggests that the animals had a few hundred years to reproduce after the flood, which previously wiped out most animals. The movement of the continents northward from an impact also explains how many animals froze to death very suddenly in what was before that a temperate climate.
Earth's Magnetic Field
Kevin, Charles Chandler's papers on the Planets at http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=6199 explain in the 4th paper there on Geomagnetism, that planets have 3 electric double layers, a positive core, a negative layer above the core and a positive outer layer. When the negative layer turns faster than the positive layer, the magnetic field is aligned one way, and when it turns slower, the field would align the other way. During the breakup of the supercontinent, and the impacts that accompanied it, and/or during the close planet encounters of the Great Flood, the positive layer would have turned at a slower then faster speed than the negative layer, causing the striped magnetic pattern on the seafloor. By the way, the fact that there is no similar magnetic pattern on the Pacific seafloor suggests that Expanding Earth theory is wrong.
Gary, Chris Dunn is the first person I heard say that the sarcophagus in the Great Pyramid and a number of other ancient Egyptian items were machined. I think he was a machining expert. I think I read someone else say that too more recently. It may be mentioned in the early posts of this thread on page one, or so. Jonathan Gray's sites said similar things. Do you happen to have links to articles about the other locations of advanced ancient artifacts?GaryN wrote:At the Göbekli Tepe site, obvious signs of machining on some of the rocks must make us wonder about the history we presently are taught. That similar machine tool evidence is found in Egypt, Japan and Peru and likely other locations can not be explained by mainstream, so they don't even try.
Turkish megaliths part 1 of 3, Göbekli Tepe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y22YMN4goxk
Seems to me that there were advanced civilisations all over the world at one time, or perhaps many times, but the last big event would likely be the ~13 kya one, but was that also the time of the great flood, or did that come later?
Dating the Great Flood
If you read some of those posts around page one, you'll see some evidence there that the timing of the Great Flood was very likely about 4300 years ago and that remnants of the former advanced civilization remained after the flood, but was not sustainable. It was the apparent source of the many ancient maps that remain highly accurate in many cases, despite having been copied from former documents. It mentions a satellite in Earth orbit that was not known to have been placed there by any modern country. There's also mention of artifacts of advanced civilization found in numerous places around the globe, often in strata that are thought to be hundreds of millions of years old, such as in coal seams. That's another reason that it's most likely that the strata were nearly all laid down at the same time recently via tsunamis. And many strata from top to bottom also contain craters or astroblemes, apparently from asteroid impacts, which likely caused the tsunamis, or probably one of the planets, Venus or Mars, caused them due to too close approach/es.
If the strata were deposited during the Great Flood about 4,300 years ago, then the dating of strata before that is wrong, because it's based on wrong assumptions, i.e. that the strata were laid down gradually over millions of years. The fact that there's little erosion between conforming strata shows that they were laid down together. The unconformities are where tsunamis calmed down for a while, probably for about a month between each unconformity and each tsunami probably lasted a few days, laying down the strata between unconformities, while one of the planets was at its perigee, i.e. closest approach to Earth in orbit around the Earth. I say this is probable, because it's unlikely that there were recurring close approaches by the same or different planets. Even if there were a few hundred or thousand years between encounters with the same planet or two or more planets, I think there are only about 5 unconformities in all, so that would only extend the cataclysms back a few thousand years, not millions of years.
Flood before Supercontinent Breakup
I believe the flood actually occurred a few hundred years before the impact occurred that split up the supercontinent, because the flood had to deposit the strata on the supercontinent before it broke up, because the opposite shores of the Atlantic match up very well, not just the shapes of the continents, but also the types of rock strata and fossils match up on the opposite shores. That's why Gray Cloud is likely wrong in saying there was no supercontinent. I'm guessing he doubts it because continental drift seems improbable, maybe because of subduction and conventional explanations. But, if a major impact broke up the supercontinent, for which there's good evidence at http://NewGeology.us , the continents that moved most, namely the Americans, Australia and Antarctica (and India), would have been able to slide over the Moho layer with very little friction and subduction would not be needed. Instead, one plate just rides over another, i.e. the American plates of the Pacific plate. The fact that there are countless fossils of mammoths and other mammals in the Arctic suggests that the animals had a few hundred years to reproduce after the flood, which previously wiped out most animals. The movement of the continents northward from an impact also explains how many animals froze to death very suddenly in what was before that a temperate climate.
Earth's Magnetic Field
Kevin, Charles Chandler's papers on the Planets at http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=6199 explain in the 4th paper there on Geomagnetism, that planets have 3 electric double layers, a positive core, a negative layer above the core and a positive outer layer. When the negative layer turns faster than the positive layer, the magnetic field is aligned one way, and when it turns slower, the field would align the other way. During the breakup of the supercontinent, and the impacts that accompanied it, and/or during the close planet encounters of the Great Flood, the positive layer would have turned at a slower then faster speed than the negative layer, causing the striped magnetic pattern on the seafloor. By the way, the fact that there is no similar magnetic pattern on the Pacific seafloor suggests that Expanding Earth theory is wrong.
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
Lloyd, You may be comparing apples and pomegranates here. The mid-Atlantic ridge is associated with a "spreading zone", providing the upwelling magma needed to 'freeze in' the prevalent magnetic orientation.Lloyd wrote: .... causing the striped magnetic pattern on the seafloor. By the way, the fact that there is no similar magnetic pattern on the Pacific seafloor suggests that Expanding Earth theory is wrong.
The Pacific "trenches" are associated with continental plate / Pacific plate interfaces (commonly dubbed "subduction zones").
There can be some 'pillow lavas' found thereabouts, but they are apparently from ~horizontal fractures and faults, which have been seen to occur with earthquakes (e.g. the 2004 Indian Ocean disaster).
Don't know about "expanding Earth". The difference in ocean bottoms may just be a result of the last Earth-crustal catastophe being from a strike on the eastern hemisphere ?
https://books.google.com/books?id=yobSB ... 3F&f=false
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
Across the southern region of the Pacific towards the antarctic then bending and extending northward nearly parallel to the South American trenches, then further adjoining/contiguous with the San Andreas via the Baja Gulf is a spreading/transverse fault complex that also bears some magnetic striping features, so the Atlantic mid-ocean ridge is not the only zone where this is seen... while subduction is one explanation for the trenches, I do not yet favor it over simple[r] isostatic collision of plates. With the stacking mantle layer data emerging, I may be able to change my mind on that account [ie. toward a fuller acceptance of subduction].
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
Seafloor Magnetic Striping
Here are good images of magnetic striping, which I haven't taken time to check out in depth:
https://www.google.com/search?q=seafloo ... f6_1&tbo=u
Granite on Western Pacific Seafloor
I was just now looking for Walter Brown's remarks about the seafloor magnetic patterns, but found Figure 91 at http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebo ... wp23634777, which says: Andesite Line. This sharp discontinuity (shown in red) in the western Pacific was identified in 1912 by the famous New Zealand geologist, Patrick Marshall. The andesite line is considered “the most significant regional geologic distinction in the Pacific Ocean Basin,”86 although the term andesite line has fallen into disuse among plate-tectonic advocates.
- Volcanic islands to the east of the andesite line are basaltic, while islands to the west are made of andesite, a type of rock named for its presence in the Andes Mountains. Andesite contains minerals, such as hornblende and biotite, that are not in basalt but are in granite (continental rock). Despite its significance, geologists have never explained why continental crust lies below the western Pacific.
Got any comments on that, Gordon? The Andesite line seems to conform with the boundary where Mike Fischer thinks the shock wave ended from the asteroid impact that broke up the supercontinent, i.e. just east of New Zealand etc. I don't know why it would be Andesite granite. Do you? I'll try to ask Mike.
Thanks for correcting me on that, GW. I see now that there is indeed apparently magnetic striping centered on the extension of the San Andreas fault to the south. It looks like the "reversals" are in much broader bands than in the Atlantic. Mike Fischer suggests that the East Pacific Rise, which is that extension, was formed long before the mid-Atlantic ridge, when an object maybe half the size of the Moon collided softly with Earth and formed the supercontinent. When the later asteroid collision split up the supercontinent, the mid-Atlantic ridge formed and the North American plate partially overrode the East Pacific Rise.webolife wrote:... the southern region of the Pacific ... also bears some magnetic striping features, so the Atlantic mid-ocean ridge is not the only zone where this is seen ...
Here are good images of magnetic striping, which I haven't taken time to check out in depth:
https://www.google.com/search?q=seafloo ... f6_1&tbo=u
Granite on Western Pacific Seafloor
I was just now looking for Walter Brown's remarks about the seafloor magnetic patterns, but found Figure 91 at http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebo ... wp23634777, which says: Andesite Line. This sharp discontinuity (shown in red) in the western Pacific was identified in 1912 by the famous New Zealand geologist, Patrick Marshall. The andesite line is considered “the most significant regional geologic distinction in the Pacific Ocean Basin,”86 although the term andesite line has fallen into disuse among plate-tectonic advocates.
- Volcanic islands to the east of the andesite line are basaltic, while islands to the west are made of andesite, a type of rock named for its presence in the Andes Mountains. Andesite contains minerals, such as hornblende and biotite, that are not in basalt but are in granite (continental rock). Despite its significance, geologists have never explained why continental crust lies below the western Pacific.
Got any comments on that, Gordon? The Andesite line seems to conform with the boundary where Mike Fischer thinks the shock wave ended from the asteroid impact that broke up the supercontinent, i.e. just east of New Zealand etc. I don't know why it would be Andesite granite. Do you? I'll try to ask Mike.
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Actually I think it fits well with my view of an isostatic collision of plates. On the Andes side, continental boundary volcanics powered by the collision of the plates are producing the characteristic andesite lavas seen throughout the Pacific rim [ring of fire] ranges and island arcs. Coevally, the plate collision forces edge regions both upward and downward [isostasy] due to simple relative buoyancy considerations. The upward thrust results in the boundary mountain ranges and Rockies complex from Chile to Alaska, while the downward thrust produces continual seismic disturbance through interaction with the mantle, along with the observed trenches in many areas around the rim. In either case the andesites are found both above and below. If some subduction is occurring as well... fine, but this is extraneous imo to explain the observations. Meanwhile on the Pacific side of the "line", the more typical basaltic composition of ocean basins is the expected observation.
I don't yet find Fischer's shock wave theory to be substantial, or necessary, especially in the emerging light of mantle block layering.
I don't yet find Fischer's shock wave theory to be substantial, or necessary, especially in the emerging light of mantle block layering.
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
Astronomy Sense & Nonsense
I started a thread called Separate Astronomy Sense from Nonsense at https://voat.co/v/astronomy/1423619. There I mentioned the following:
- My thread Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm at http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 45#p109594 discusses how tsunamis likely deposited nearly all sedimentary rock strata over a period of months.
- This http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 60#p109653 briefly discusses megasequences of strata.
- This http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 90#p112161 discusses seeming absurdities in conventional rock strata formation theory.
- This http://NewGeology.us discusses how an asteroid impact likely broke up the supercontinent and caused rapid continental drift and orogenesis, or mountains formation.
Advanced Civilization during Cataclysm
- As per page one of this thread, evidence of ancient civilization structures are found underground. Since some strata exist above the structures and many below, and since the strata were likely deposited during 5 or 6 tsunami episodes during the Great Flood, does this mean the structures were built during lulls between tsunami episodes? Or were some of the structures or artifacts carried to those levels by tsunamis?
- Would members of advanced ancient civilization have been able to survive the Great Flood tsunamis by digging tunnels underground during lulls between tsunami episodes? Page one discusses vast ancient tunnels, presumably in sedimentary strata laid down by the Great Flood tsunamis, where lulls between each tsunami episode probably lasted a few weeks each, giving the ancients a little time to dig shelters in the newly deposited sediments. But would these sediments have been too wet to form solid shelters? Maybe it's more likely that the structures were built a few years after the Great Flood tsunamis. Then perhaps they were buried during the post-flood massive erosion.
- The map of locations without sedimentary strata in this image http://www.geo.msu.edu/geogmich/images/ ... _belts.JPG in this post http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 10#p110460 may show where continental material was removed by tsunamis to other locations.
- The earth’s magnetic field is evidence that the earth is young, as explained at http://creation.com/the-earths-magnetic ... h-is-young.
Here are recent Major Sci News articles relevant to Catastrophism:
Dinosaur-killing asteroid turned planet Earth inside-out (old granite was found just a kilometre below surface at Yucatan)
https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... inside-out
A tiny parrot fossil suggests Siberia was once subtropical [like 5,000 years ago]
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... ubtropical
This 6,000-year-old amulet is the first evidence of a technology still used by NASA today [i.e. probably 4,000+ years old, but suggests advanced ancient technology]
http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists- ... old-amulet
Mathematician claims one in 500 chance of extinction next year [good evidence for catastrophism]
https://www.sott.net/article/334266-Mat ... -next-year
I started a thread called Separate Astronomy Sense from Nonsense at https://voat.co/v/astronomy/1423619. There I mentioned the following:
- My thread Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm at http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 45#p109594 discusses how tsunamis likely deposited nearly all sedimentary rock strata over a period of months.
- This http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 60#p109653 briefly discusses megasequences of strata.
- This http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 90#p112161 discusses seeming absurdities in conventional rock strata formation theory.
- This http://NewGeology.us discusses how an asteroid impact likely broke up the supercontinent and caused rapid continental drift and orogenesis, or mountains formation.
Advanced Civilization during Cataclysm
- As per page one of this thread, evidence of ancient civilization structures are found underground. Since some strata exist above the structures and many below, and since the strata were likely deposited during 5 or 6 tsunami episodes during the Great Flood, does this mean the structures were built during lulls between tsunami episodes? Or were some of the structures or artifacts carried to those levels by tsunamis?
- Would members of advanced ancient civilization have been able to survive the Great Flood tsunamis by digging tunnels underground during lulls between tsunami episodes? Page one discusses vast ancient tunnels, presumably in sedimentary strata laid down by the Great Flood tsunamis, where lulls between each tsunami episode probably lasted a few weeks each, giving the ancients a little time to dig shelters in the newly deposited sediments. But would these sediments have been too wet to form solid shelters? Maybe it's more likely that the structures were built a few years after the Great Flood tsunamis. Then perhaps they were buried during the post-flood massive erosion.
- The map of locations without sedimentary strata in this image http://www.geo.msu.edu/geogmich/images/ ... _belts.JPG in this post http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 10#p110460 may show where continental material was removed by tsunamis to other locations.
- The earth’s magnetic field is evidence that the earth is young, as explained at http://creation.com/the-earths-magnetic ... h-is-young.
Here are recent Major Sci News articles relevant to Catastrophism:
Dinosaur-killing asteroid turned planet Earth inside-out (old granite was found just a kilometre below surface at Yucatan)
https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... inside-out
A tiny parrot fossil suggests Siberia was once subtropical [like 5,000 years ago]
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... ubtropical
This 6,000-year-old amulet is the first evidence of a technology still used by NASA today [i.e. probably 4,000+ years old, but suggests advanced ancient technology]
http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists- ... old-amulet
Mathematician claims one in 500 chance of extinction next year [good evidence for catastrophism]
https://www.sott.net/article/334266-Mat ... -next-year
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Lloyd,
While you generally describe the deluge as a phenomenon associated with the local evidences of archaeology and "recent" geology, I see the deluge as a global phenomenon associated with the paleontology of the entire geologic column from Cambrian up, and the entire complex of stratification to be relatively "recent". So evidences of advanced civilization and technology generally post-date my deluge. After "shocks" and tsunami events [and other catastrophes] certainly have played havoc with some of those cultures, but these for me are not main deluge events.
While you generally describe the deluge as a phenomenon associated with the local evidences of archaeology and "recent" geology, I see the deluge as a global phenomenon associated with the paleontology of the entire geologic column from Cambrian up, and the entire complex of stratification to be relatively "recent". So evidences of advanced civilization and technology generally post-date my deluge. After "shocks" and tsunami events [and other catastrophes] certainly have played havoc with some of those cultures, but these for me are not main deluge events.
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Lloyd,
Call me old fashioned but I would think high ground rather than tunnels if there was a lot of water about.
Call me old fashioned but I would think high ground rather than tunnels if there was a lot of water about.
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
SiriDas posted the following on the EU board and I posted a reply there as follows.
Randall Carlson's research into Comets/Myth
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 22#p116422
Postby SiriDas » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:06 am
Does anyone know if Dave Talbott & Randall Carlson have ever met/chatted?
- I just watched Randall's introductory video about his research into decoding the mythology around Halloween...and it turns out it is based around "end of the world" type events:
- "Decrypting the Cosmic Origins of Halloween"
https://youtu.be/75hVrv392BY
Postby Lloyd » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:16 pm
Carlson seems to do a good job of showing that an ancient catastrophe occurred around Nov. 2 in ancient times, involving a comet that broke up to form the Taurid meteor stream, but which initially likely produced catastrophic impacts on Earth. He explains that the Great Flood, according to the Biblical dating, occurred on Nov. 2. So that seems to be excellent evidence that the flood was caused by an initial impact. Since the Earth passed through the meteor stream twice a year, around June 30 and November 2, there may have been frequent impacts every year for several decades or centuries, which got progressively milder over time. The Leonid meteor stream on Nov. 17 in the constellation Leo may also have originated with the breakup of the same comet. Hathor may be the comet Venus. He said it's no accident that apparition refers both to comets and ghosts, those who died in catastrophes.
- His Youtube channel is at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4wP5o ... CHQ1dJ8pvw which shows that he has associated with Graham Hancock. He has a lot of interestingly titled videos. ...
Randall Carlson's research into Comets/Myth
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 22#p116422
Postby SiriDas » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:06 am
Does anyone know if Dave Talbott & Randall Carlson have ever met/chatted?
- I just watched Randall's introductory video about his research into decoding the mythology around Halloween...and it turns out it is based around "end of the world" type events:
- "Decrypting the Cosmic Origins of Halloween"
https://youtu.be/75hVrv392BY
Postby Lloyd » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:16 pm
Carlson seems to do a good job of showing that an ancient catastrophe occurred around Nov. 2 in ancient times, involving a comet that broke up to form the Taurid meteor stream, but which initially likely produced catastrophic impacts on Earth. He explains that the Great Flood, according to the Biblical dating, occurred on Nov. 2. So that seems to be excellent evidence that the flood was caused by an initial impact. Since the Earth passed through the meteor stream twice a year, around June 30 and November 2, there may have been frequent impacts every year for several decades or centuries, which got progressively milder over time. The Leonid meteor stream on Nov. 17 in the constellation Leo may also have originated with the breakup of the same comet. Hathor may be the comet Venus. He said it's no accident that apparition refers both to comets and ghosts, those who died in catastrophes.
- His Youtube channel is at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4wP5o ... CHQ1dJ8pvw which shows that he has associated with Graham Hancock. He has a lot of interestingly titled videos. ...
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
Lloyd,
Carlson and Hancock have done a couple of Joe Rogan podcasts lately.
http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/g ... -carlson-2 (15th Nov but I'm sure they did one not long before).
Carlson and Hancock have done a couple of Joe Rogan podcasts lately.
http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/g ... -carlson-2 (15th Nov but I'm sure they did one not long before).
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The great Way is simple
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Tao Te Ching, 53.
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
Thanks, GC. I just watched one of them regarding the ice age flood in Washington state. They used a drone to get better views of a lot of the features there. That flood did some major erosion.Grey Cloud wrote:Lloyd,
Carlson and Hancock have done a couple of Joe Rogan podcasts lately.
http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/g ... -carlson-2 (15th Nov but I'm sure they did one not long before).
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
I think they actual referred to floods, plural.That flood did some major erosion.
Carlson also offers very sensible explanations in several lectures of so-called "anomalous boulders", for those thinking they may have flown in on a thunderbolt or something.
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
Seasmith wrote:
Not to be confused with 'floods, pluvial'. Or are they?I think they actual referred to floods, plural.
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The great Way is simple
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