Fringe Science

[Lloyd]

Fulton's Fringe Science Quiz
Fulton's 1997 Quiz is here:
http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~ckank/fringe
The answers are here:
http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~ckank/fringe/answers.html
* The quiz asks to match the following names with their theories.
* I know the theories of 2,6,9,12,15,19,22,23,25,28,29,30,34,35,36,38,40,46,47,48,50,51,57,59 & 64. [Some other names I recognize, but I don't know their theories. I wonder if the TB team communicates with Fulton.]
1, 2. Hannes O.G. Alfven, 3. Leland Allen, 4. Mark A. Baker, & R. Robin Bellis, 5. Jacques Benveniste, 6. Jim Berkland, 7. Robert Bieri, 8. Howard Bloom, 9. Charles Cagle, 10. John Cairns, 11. A.G.Cairns-Smith, 12. S. Warren Carey, 13. C.V.L.Charlier, 14. Aliaksandr L. Chizhevsky, 15. Michael A. Cremo, & Richard L. Thompson, 16. James P. Crutchfield, & James E. Hanson, 17. Lloyd deMause, 18. Aloysius deSelby, 19. Peter Duesberg, 20. Nicolaos Epiotis, 21. Paul Ewald, & Gregory M. Cochran, 22. Tom Van Flandern, , , 23. Charles Ginenthal, 24. Georgi P. Gladyshev, 25. Thomas Gold, 26. Alister Hardy, 27. Judith Rich Harris, 28. Richard Hoagland, 29. Sir Fred Hoyle, & N. Chandra Wickramasinghe, 30. C. Warren Hunt, 31. V. Illic-Svitye, & A. Dolgopolsky, 32. Donald E. Ingber, 33. Robert G.Jahn, 34. Ralph Juergens, & Wal Thornhill, 35. C. Louis Kervran, 36. Alfred Korzybski, 37. Vladimir N. Larin, 38. Paul LaViolette, 39. Jeffrey G. Lawrence, 40. Timothy Leary, 41. James V. McConnel, & Georges Ungar, 42. Terence McKenna, 43. Moti Milgrom, 44. Randell L. Mills, 45. F.Nimmo, & D.McKenzie, 46. David John Oates, 47. Linus Pauling, 48. Stanley Pons, & Martin Fleischmann, 49. David E. Pressler, 50. Harold Puthoff, 51. Wilhelm Reich, 52. Eliyahu Rips, 53. Andrei D. Sakharov, 54. Eric Scerri, 55. Fredric Schiffer, 56. Casper G. Schmidt, 57. Rupert Sheldrake, 58. Yasuo Shinozuka, 59. Zecharia Sitchin, 60. Lee Smolin, 61. Ricardo Sole, & Per Bak, 62. Sorin Sonea, & Maurice Panisset, 63. David J. Stevenson, 64. Immanual Velikovsky, 65. Günter Wächtershäuser, 66. Andrew Whiten, & Richard W. Byrne, 67. David Sloan Wilson, 68. Carl Woese, 69. R.G.Woolley, 70. Saul Youssef, 71. Danah Zohar
* Here are Fulton's comments that precede the quiz.

Some of us are tempted to think that science has reached its limits since most of the fundamental questions there are to settle have been settled and only piddling details remain. However, there are lots of 20th century ideas that just might sometime in the future shake up this naive, jaded attitude and revitalize fundamental scientific inquiry. Of course, there are others who never adopted this outlook and don't need to be shaken up. Whatever your outlook...
Can you match each of the seventy 20th century thinkers or pair of thinkers below with his fringe scientific idea. At least one of the thinkers is a mere philosopher and the list contains at least one inside joke. In some instances, someone not listed on the left might better match an idea on the right. Some of the ideas have already found limited acceptance. Some haven't found any. Some are mutually incompatible while others if taken together could lead to new and exciting paradigms or at least to interesting science fiction stories. Some are apparently unrelated to the rest entirely. My apologies to any scientist, living or dead, whose ideas have been misrepresented.

[scerri]

Thank you for including my name among this illustrious company.

I am a little surprised to be labeled as crank science given that I have written the widely acknowledged and definitive book on the periodic system of the elements and with a respectable press, Oxford University Press. What did I ever do to earn the label of crank?

Eric Scerri, The Periodic Table, Its Story and Its Significance, Oxford University Press, 2007.

[Total Science]

"The problem of demarcation between science and pseudoscience has great implications also for the institutionalization of criticism. Copernicus's theory was banned by the Catholic Church in 1616 because it was said to be pseudoscientific. It was taken off the Index in 1820 because by that time the Church deemed that facts have proved it and therefore it became scientific. The Central Committee of the Soviet Communist Party in 1949 declared Mendelian genetics pseudoscientific and had it's advocates like Academician Vavilov killed in concentration camps." -- Imre Lakatos, philosopher, 1973

[Lloyd]

* Here's what Fulton said:
54. Eric Scerri - New Periodic Table II. — the discovery of subelectronic structure may lead to a new organizing principle for the periodic table of the elements.
* Looks like here's a good article about your scheme: http://www.hyle.org/journal/issues/11-2/scerri.htm
* It shows your version of the periodic table, as well as the left-step or Janet Periodic Table, which it resembles and which I posted here in another thread several weeks ago or more.

[flyingcloud]

similarly in wave octave form

[StevenO]

Similarly in circular form

[Grey Cloud]

I think I'll stick with Earth, Water, Air and Fire.

[Drethon]

Or Earth, Water, Air and Plasma?

[junglelord]

I will stick with earth, water, air, plasma, aether.
I will add two counter opposite rotating PHI Spirals.
Now mix it all together with angular momentum....shake it forward and backward in time, both left and right spin...
mmmm Tensegrity creates matter....how cool is that?

[Grey Cloud]

Or Earth, Water, Air and Plasma?

Nope, plasma comes under the heading of Fire. JL's aether is acceptable as a fifth element, it's just another way of looking at the same thing. The Chinese use 5 elements but I prefer 4. It can be done with three but the fourth (Fire) is always implied.

[junglelord]

For some reason 3 and 5 always appealed to me, as you say 4 is always implied from either one.

[Grey Cloud]

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The outer circle is Fire and the others are, from bottom to top: Earth, Water and Air.

[mague]

harmony2.jpg

The outer circle is Fire and the others are, from bottom to top: Earth, Water and Air.

I smell a conspiracy in ancient greek

By logic it should be obvious that all four classic elements should have the same sized circle and the same sginificance. The medicine wheel wins in that regard.

The conspiracy began when the fire people decided to rule the world.

Plato asserts that the gods created humans and all the other animals, but it was left to Prometheus and his brother Epimetheus to give defining attributes to each. As no physical traits were left when the pair came to humans, Prometheus decided to give them fire and other civilizing arts.

Even Plato was spreading misinformations. On purpose or maybe already blinded by the wealthy weaponssmiths and "burn to expand - regression is death" mindset. Nothing new since the titans

And so the fire tirbe is still ruling. 98% of anything that could be regarded as problem is powered by fire. Be it propulsion, an atomic reactor or just a set of batteries. Nevethteless there are still some poeple who dont even cook their meal. And its possible to live completely without fire.n Which is not necessary, but fire is not more then 25%. In a five element system only 20%. And it has nothing to do with the periodic table That all is earth

[StevenO]

The conspiracy began when the fire people decided to rule the world.

You are completely right. One of the main reasons humans are a dominant species is that cooking food allows them to absorb many times more nutrients from food than other animals do. Gives them time and energy to spend on other things, like frequenting internet forums

[mague]

The conspiracy began when the fire people decided to rule the world.

You are completely right. One of the main reasons humans are a dominant species is that cooking food allows them to absorb many times more nutrients from food than other animals do.

Only the carnivores BTW: latest studies show that growing cows and pigs as food is less effective then just to eat the stuff we feed the cows and pigs. Industrial meat production is a condradiction.

I am sorry, but i am not talking about "the humans". I am talking about the fire tribe. About 1/4th of the balanced world. Yet currently ruling 85% or more of it.

1986 Continental Indigenous Council Similar lore is still alive in asia.