Experimental Verification of Electric Gravity

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Experimental Verification of Electric Gravity

Post by earls » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:03 pm

An experimental apparatus I had in mind to attempt to verify "Electric Gravity."

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I've chosen this design, because it is within my budget and ability...

I'm hinging my bets on a positively charged sphere (hollow) versus a negatively charge, but it could easily be reversed.

The heat source is there to heat up the sphere to liberate more electrons from the metal.

I was planning on using a copper sphere. Melting point is just under 2000 degrees F. I'm open to methods of heating the sphere... A high powered laser would cost too much, I was planning on a solar concentrator.

My major concern is that the attraction of the sphere to any electrons in the glass/air surrounding it will diminish any evidence of an "anti-gravitational" effect.

I understand why gravity has been such a mystery, if it is electrical in nature, it's near impossible to isolate it...

Am alternating negative and positive charge may need to be present in an open-air device... You have to create an area of vacuum around the device, then pulse your stronger "anti-gravitational" charge (to repulse the earth) before the vacuum is compromised.

Comments, suggestions?

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Re: Experimental Verification of Electric Gravity

Post by Osmosis » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:37 pm

If the belljar is a heat-proof glass, perhaps an infrared heat source. Also is the diode in backwards? :)

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Re: Experimental Verification of Electric Gravity

Post by biknewb » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:46 pm

What method did you have in mind for measuring the antigravity effect?

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Re: Experimental Verification of Electric Gravity

Post by solrey » Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:21 pm

May I offer a suggestion for a different setup.
My thought is if gravity is an EM induced atomic dipole phenomena, maybe the dipole could be disrupted with a strong, alternating magnetic field. Varying the strength of the magnetic field should correspondingly vary the weight.

A possible configuration could be a spherical electromagnet shell with a hole in the bottom where a non-conducting post, attached to one end of a high quality balance scale, slides in with a non-conducting sphere, maybe a glass marble, sitting atop the post inside the hollow 'magnetosphere'. Encasing the whole electromagnetic sphere in magnetic shielding would probably be necessary as well. Before throwing the switch, balance and zero the scale.
Another configuration (maybe better) would be as above but going in through the top, with a hole in the top of the sphere and a marble inside on the end of a string with the string attached to the bottom of one side of the scale.
Power the electromagnetic sphere with an alternating current and play with frequency and duty cycle while looking for any effect on the balance scale.
Make the EM sphere out of a grid of electromagnets all aimed at the center.

Maybe getting hammered from all sides by a centrally focused alternating magnetic field would disrupt the atomic dipole enough for a detectable drop in weight.

Maybe after all the spring pruning and garden prep is done I'll try it out myself. ;)
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Re: Experimental Verification of Electric Gravity

Post by earls » Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:22 pm

"Also is the diode in backwards?"
Not the way I understand it, another opinion? Bueller?
What method did you have in mind for measuring the antigravity effect?
My eyes. I understand what you're getting at, and I had originally imagined the heat source laser as a measuring instrument between the bottom of the apparatus and the sphere... An increase in distance would indicate a loss of weight. But if gravity is electromagnetic, then it should be easy to produce a strong, noticeable result, not some minuscule hairsbreadth of weight loss. Take "lifters" for example. If I can't produce a force to lift a small sphere, how the hell am I going to lift a person or vehicle?

solrey, technically that has already been done: http://www.hfml.ru.nl/froglev.html But it doesn't get us any close to an effect outside of the sphere... The object in the sphere is weightless, but the sphere is still on the ground.

Thinking about my experiment some more, I believe a "Faraday cage" around the positive sphere would solve some problems. For one, it would keep out any EMF. Two, it gives the positively charged anode a termination point... The charge of the central sphere can be regulated by a resistor on the negative cage flowing back to the power source. The negatively charged cage would keep negative charges away... Any positive charges that make it into the cage are then rejected by the positively charged sphere.

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Re: Experimental Verification of Electric Gravity

Post by junglelord » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:40 am

First thing is nature takes the path of least resistance....so we would not use AC, not grounded AC anyway.
We would use pulse DC.
Very important to match natures methods...that is Impulse Current which Tesla created with Pusle DC.
Now on to the notion that we can test this...it has been done....TT Brown.

The positive end of a capacitor is always anti-gravity as it converges space/time.
TT Brown left clear evidence that his work is true anti-gravity.

Plasma around the craft is important and this is always recognized in "UFO" sightings and videos, ie, Stevensville, Texas.

I believe that the German Bell was indeed the first UFO of ours...that utilized a rotating magnetic field that was created by a plasma mercury vapor....
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Re: Experimental Verification of Electric Gravity

Post by earls » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:05 am

"TT Brown left clear evidence that his work is true anti-gravity."
Link please.

An anti-gravitational device cannot require the presence of a "working fluid" (plasma)... While such devices will allow you to "fly", once you get to particular density in the atmosphere, you will not be able to ascend any higher without increasing the voltage. We already have a big enough problem incorporating the power supply onto the vehicle itself, let alone one large enough to conjure "plasma" from a vacuous environment.

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Re: Experimental Verification of Electric Gravity

Post by solrey » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:44 am

The reason I suggested AC current was to hit the central object with magnetic pole reversals in order to eliminate magnetic levitation and to disrupt the atomic dipole, if in fact that's how gravity manifests. I think that would be important as far as testing whether or not gravity is a result of an EM force.
Otherwise it would just be like playing with magnets, imo.

I think that anti-gravity propulsioin systems would operate by adjusting 'frequencies' rather than 'power'. There was a paper about some research where they captured an electron in a 'quantum donut' and held it there using a tuned magnetic field. In order to capture or release the electron, they simply adjusted the frequency of the EM field, not the power. Finesse it, don't force it. On another thread, I suggested that this technique could be used as an electron collector array to basically harness 'free' energy to power a ship. Perhaps by creating a resonant magnetic/plasma field around the ship, the whole thing could be tuned to basically become an energetic 'particle' and possibly utilize forces stronger than magnetism.
Or maybe it's just the wake-n-bake talking. :D
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Re: Experimental Verification of Electric Gravity

Post by Influx » Sat May 30, 2009 1:11 pm

Stop wasting your time! :D

Millions of electrodes have been charged with electricity (all kinds) in vacuum! Someone would surely have seen if they started to levitate! :D

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Gravitation Suspended in Experiments

The above theorem was arrived at after I had succeeded in sustaining a metallic object in space by means of a counter-gravitational effect produced through the action of an electric field upon the above object. A strong electric field was produced by means of a special form of generator and when the metallic object was held within its influence it drew up to approximately a distance of 1 mm from the center of the field, then was repelled backward toward an earthed contact, going within 10 cm of the same when it was again attracted toward the field’s center but this time getting no nearer than 5 cm from the polar nucleus. This backward and forward movement contained for some time until the metallic object at last came to a comparatively stable position, about 25 cm from the field’s center where it remained until the power was shut off. While the metallic object was suspended, I was able to study the effect of the surrounding field and found by means of a powerful microscope, assisted by the insertion of a vacuum tube within the field, that the metallic object (having of course a certain electrical capacity) became fully charged and gave off part of said charge to and against the surrounding field which tended to hold said object in space, apparently without any other sustaining influence. Around the outside of the metallic object and extending to a distance of about 1/2 cm was a completely dark belt or space in which there appeared to be no electrical agitation due, possibly, to neutralization caused by the contact of the large incoming energy supply from the field’s center of with the small oscillating radiations from metallic object. The ever-changing action of attraction and repulsion resulted in the overcoming of gravitation. Going farther I will state that the dark belt above mentioned after many tests gave no sign of electrification, inasmuch as its width was but 1/2 cm. In fact, a dark line was shown in the vacuum tube when it was introduced between metallic object and center of field. It is my firm conviction that somewhere on the outer confines of our planet there exists a similar counteracting belt through which naught but the gravitational vibrations of the sun penetrate, and these vibrations absolutely annihilate or absorb all other less powerful ones.

http://www.rexresearch.com/piggott/piggott.htm


If you already have the vacuum pump and the vacuum chamber, a better experiment for you to preform would be to see is the aluminum satellites still fly around the van de graf generator in vacuum!?

http://books.google.com/books?id=RPWNfd ... #PPA182,M1 <<<< page 182 of the book preview. If the aluminum foil satellites still fly around the van der graf electrode in vacuum them we might really be onto something!?

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... a&start=30 Scroll down to "My search for gravity control continues. Here is a interesting link, satellites around the van der graf generator!" for more cool stuff.
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Re: Experimental Verification of Electric Gravity

Post by junglelord » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:35 pm

Anti gravity is top secret, they do not have public peer review. Infact they denie it and lie about it being possible.
However, to ask me to produce, top secret documents is not very intelligent. Lack of proof is not proof of lack.
If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
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