Electrical storm signatures could make tornado test

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Electrical storm signatures could make tornado test

Unread post by StevenO » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:51 pm

I have read an article that suggests that hurricanes and tornadoes are caused by a magnetic effect coming out of the earth's core that is similar to the creation of sunspots.
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Re: Electrical storm signatures could make tornado test

Unread post by Grey Cloud » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:08 pm

StevenO wrote:I have read an article that suggests that hurricanes and tornadoes are caused by a magnetic effect coming out of the earth's core that is similar to the creation of sunspots.
Hi Steven,
Have you got a link to that, please? Sounds interesting.
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Re: Electrical storm signatures could make tornado test

Unread post by StevenO » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:33 pm

Grey Cloud wrote:Hi Steven,
Have you got a link to that, please? Sounds interesting.
Well....it's not for the faint of heart since you need to be a little familiar with the 'Universe of Motion' theory.

Here it is:

http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/isus/re ... hcore.html

Search for "Outer Sheath Thredules".

To summarize the article: the author suggests that planet cores consist of white dwarf remnants that are the result of third stage typical stellar evolution. The 'inverted' physical properties of the white dwarf core would explain a.o. the stable orbits of planets(anti-gravity), the high density and the creation of the magnetic field.
Matter at extremely high temperatures as found in stars forms so called 'thredules' with a 1 Dimensional form of magnetism called 'co-magnetism'. These thredules would be created at the boundary between the inner core and the outer core. When they project through the earths crust they produce a super cold column of air at high altitudes causing (super) storms.

I know it sounds all like gibberish, but a complete explanation of the theory would take weeks. You have to believe me that it all makes sense.
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Re: Electrical storm signatures could make tornado test

Unread post by Grey Cloud » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:52 pm

Thanks Steven, I'll give it a whirl.
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Re: Electrical storm signatures could make tornado test

Unread post by Grey Cloud » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:55 pm

Hi Steven,
Wow, thanks. Just read the page and found it fascinating. I'll read some more of the site tomorrow.
Funnily enough, Kevin and I are just having a little discussion about crop circles, EM and Wiltshire (home of Salisbury Plain). Can't wait to tell him about this.
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Re: Electrical storm signatures could make tornado test

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:29 pm

* If you believe the Reciprocal System theory, you believe that:
- the universe expands at the speed of light;
- that all matter in the universe expands at the speed of light;
- that you and I are expanding at the speed of light;
- that the redshift of quasars etc is due to velocity, as is said in conventional science;
- that quasars are at great distances, as is said in conventional science;
- that the finger of God effect is real; that Earth is the center of the universe
[see http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/ ... rs-god.htm];
- that Arp and Thornhill are wrong about explaining quasars
[see http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/ ... se-arp.htm];
etc.
[Also: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=wa ... h&aq=f&oq=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=si ... tnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=si ... tnG=Search]
* Parts of the Reciprocal System seem to make sense, such as the idea that everything is motion, or is a reciprocal relation between space and time, each up to 3 dimensions.
* But a lot of it seems to be way wrong, like above.

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Re: Electrical storm signatures could make tornado test

Unread post by StevenO » Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:13 pm

Lloyd wrote:* If you believe the Reciprocal System theory, you believe that:
- the universe expands at the speed of light;
- that all matter in the universe expands at the speed of light;
- that you and I are expanding at the speed of light;
- that the redshift of quasars etc is due to velocity, as is said in conventional science;
- that quasars are at great distances, as is said in conventional science;
- that the finger of God effect is real; that Earth is the center of the universe
[see http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/ ... rs-god.htm];
- that Arp and Thornhill are wrong about explaining quasars
[see http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/ ... se-arp.htm];
etc.
[Also: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=wa ... h&aq=f&oq=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=si ... tnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=si ... tnG=Search]
* Parts of the Reciprocal System seem to make sense, such as the idea that everything is motion, or is a reciprocal relation between space and time, each up to 3 dimensions.
* But a lot of it seems to be way wrong, like above.
The Reciprocal System holds that 'motion' is the sole constituent of the universe and that the 'zero action' motion is space and time progressing (not expanding) at a lightspeed RATIO in a reciprocal relation. Deviations from that ratio then cause physical effects. You should not draw incorrect conclusions from that, which are:

- There is no conclusion that the Universe expands
- Matter does not expand at the speed of light since 'mass'(gravitational) motion offsets the 'zero action' progression
- The earth is not the center of the universe

A few other remarks:
- Quasars are exploding cores of galaxies. Larson predicted them in 1959, BEFORE they were observed. Larson explains a lot more features of quasars the Arp and Thornhill do (see: http://library.rstheory.org/books/qp). Larson worked with Arp on the verification of his quasar theory and expresses a lot of respect for the work of Arp (see Ch 9).
- The theory does not leave much room for an Electric Universe. The main astronomical forces('motions') in RST theory are the progression of space (and time) with the counter motion of gravity. It does explain most astronomical observations without the need for exotic constructs like the Big Bang, dark matter/energy and black holes.
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Re: Electrical storm signatures could make tornado test

Unread post by Grey Cloud » Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:14 pm

Hi Lloyd,
Thanks for the advice but I said I found it fascinating, not that I wanted to run off and marry its author. :D
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