The Aether Theory of Relativity

[marengo]

Again, where did I state mass does not exist? I'm refuting your religious belief the "EXTRA" mass is magically created.

A belief that has absolutey no evidence to support it hence the reason even mainstream relativists have abandoned the idea.

OK, so now you believe in mass. Tell me, how do you measure it?
You could use F = ma, could you not. ie apply a force and measure the acceleration.
So now do the same thing when the body is moving at 0.999c instead of 0c.
I think you will find that the acceleration is much less for the same force. In other words the mass is greater.

[marengo]

It's a shame you didn't examine the evidence regarding the Hafele-Keating sham, muon lifetime assumptions, actual GPS functionality and particle accelerator measurement limitations before embarking on your misguided theory.

Lets go back to the LHC. For if an increased mass of 15000 is evidence of relativity then time dilation must also take place. In that case the different journeys of any two clocks (as I have described many times before) must produce time dilation. Whether the time difference is easy to measure or not is merely a practical point.

[Aardwolf]

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of geometry. If A travels away from B at 300,000 mph, under the very definition of relativity, B must be travelling away from
A at 300,000 mph. If A moves in any direction at any speed relative to B, B moves in the opposite direction relative to A at the same speed. Are you unable or unwilling to understand this?

For Gods sake, man. I am putting an Aether theory in front of you. Can you not at least remember that.
The effect on the two clocks is a function of their Aether velocity. That will be different for each clock.

In that case, regarding your theory how do you determine GPS to work? The clocks are all adjusted by the same figure of 7,200 nanoseconds (for the time dilation element) but according to your theory would need to have taken identical jouneys relative to the aether. How was that possible? Also how does it work now? At the surface of the Earth a receiver uses 5 to 6 the satellites which are moving in different directions. How are they moving the same speed relative to the aether? The only point in space that all the satellites are moving at the same relative speed is the centre of the Earth which means the aether would also need to be stationary relative to the centre of the Earth. Which begs the question, does your theory place Earth at the centre of the universe?

[marengo]

In that case, regarding your theory how do you determine GPS to work? The clocks are all adjusted by the same figure of 7,200 nanoseconds (for the time dilation element) but according to your theory would need to have taken identical jouneys relative to the aether. How was that possible? Also how does it work now? At the surface of the Earth a receiver uses 5 to 6 the satellites which are moving in different directions. How are they moving the same speed relative to the aether? The only point in space that all the satellites are moving at the same relative speed is the centre of the Earth which means the aether would also need to be stationary relative to the centre of the Earth. Which begs the question, does your theory place Earth at the centre of the universe?

I wish you guys would read my papers and book.
Of course the satellites are all moving at different Aether velocities. That's obvious isn't it?
Try simplifying the picture. Take two clocks approaching each other. Two different Aether velocities, Yes?
NOW they both read each other, across the separation distance, as reading SLOW. Two clocks cant both be slow relative to each other, can they? But that is Einstein's prediction.IT IS ALSO THE AToV PREDICTION.
How can this be? It is because of observation effects when the clocks move relative to each other
When the clocks are stationary in the HK test there is no observation effect. Now one is fast, the other is slow.
FOR GODS SAKE, READ THE PAPERS.

[Aardwolf]

Again, where did I state mass does not exist? I'm refuting your religious belief the "EXTRA" mass is magically created.

A belief that has absolutey no evidence to support it hence the reason even mainstream relativists have abandoned the idea.

OK, so now you believe in mass. Tell me, how do you measure it?

The only way you can. By comparing to something else of known mass.

You could use F = ma, could you not. ie apply a force and measure the acceleration.
So now do the same thing when the body is moving at 0.999c instead of 0c.
I think you will find that the acceleration is much less for the same force. In other words the mass is greater.

That's not measuring the mass, only inferring it. There's no way of knowing exactly how much force is absorbed by the particles in the accelerator or, if it is absorbed if it indeed manifests in mass or energy.

[Aardwolf]

It's a shame you didn't examine the evidence regarding the Hafele-Keating sham, muon lifetime assumptions, actual GPS functionality and particle accelerator measurement limitations before embarking on your misguided theory.

Lets go back to the LHC. For if an increased mass of 15000 is evidence of relativity then time dilation must also take place. In that case the different journeys of any two clocks (as I have described many times before) must produce time dilation. Whether the time difference is easy to measure or not is merely a practical point.

But you have no evidence just if's and maybe's. No increased mass is measured. If it is then peruse all your mountains of evidence and provide a link or reference to the equipment that measures it.

House of cards.

[Aardwolf]

Of course the satellites are all moving at different Aether velocities.

Then by your determination they should have different clock rates. Then how can GPS work considering the same adjusting figure is used for each individual clock on board? The adjustment should be in respect of its its own aether velocity.

[marengo]

The only way you can. By comparing to something else of known mass.

And how do you know the mass of the body you are comparing against.
I am still waiting for a sensible post from some-one. I am not holding my breath waiting.

[marengo]

Then by your determination they should have different clock rates. Then how can GPS work considering the same adjusting figure is used for each individual clock on board? The adjustment should be in respect of its its own aether velocity.

If you had read my papers or my booklet you would have had the answer to your question.

Is it impossible for you to believe that there is a difference between what is there and what is measured or observed to be there. For example the measure of c is always 300,000km/s. But it isn't really.

[marengo]

It is glaringly obvious that none of you have bothered to understand the Aether Theory of Relativity.
So how can you criticise what you don't understand? And yet you do so constantly.

The basics of the AToR are simple and yet you refuse to accept anything I tell you.
In my simplicity I thought that some of you, one of you, would be interested to know how the Universe really works in these affairs. Foolish me!

[viscount aero]

It is glaringly obvious that none of you have bothered to understand the Aether Theory of Relativity.
So how can you criticise what you don't understand? And yet you do so constantly.

The basics of the AToR are simple and yet you refuse to accept anything I tell you.
In my simplicity I thought that some of you, one of you, would be interested to know how the Universe really works in these affairs. Foolish me!

Your papers are nearly unreadable. That is why. You are a poor communicator and you have no clue that you are. People want to understand you else they wouldn't bother with pages and pages of questioning you.

[Aardwolf]

The only way you can. By comparing to something else of known mass.

And how do you know the mass of the body you are comparing against.

Indeed. But with no understanding of the rest mass what possible use is an assumption that it increases in motion.

Theory built upon theory and yet at the end you decide you have facts. House of cards.

[Aardwolf]

Then by your determination they should have different clock rates. Then how can GPS work considering the same adjusting figure is used for each individual clock on board? The adjustment should be in respect of its its own aether velocity.

If you had read my papers or my booklet you would have had the answer to your question.

Is it impossible for you to believe that there is a difference between what is there and what is measured or observed to be there. For example the measure of c is always 300,000km/s. But it isn't really.

Why the dodge? Just answer the question below which only requires a single word answer.

1) Should the satellite clocks have different clock adjustments considering;

Of course the satellites are all moving at different Aether velocities. That's obvious isn't it?

[David]

The Aether properties:-
1. Space is a solid matrix (the Aether) of contiguous identical Aether particles (termed aethons).
2. The density of aethons is a variable with respect to a more fundamental reference frame, the sub-Aether.
3. No other substance exist other than the Aether and the sub-Aether.

First, we are told that the sub-Aether is a “fundamental reference frame”. Then, in the very next sentence, we are told that the sub-Aether is a “substance”. And searching the entire book will turn up nothing else. The only references to the sub-Aether, are those shown above; that’s all there is.

How can anyone possibly understand this theory? From one sentence to the next, it's total confusion.

Can anyone tell me what the sub-Aether is, or why it is even mentioned at all? I am guessing that no one can (and the includes the author of this vague, shody and poorly defined theory).

[marengo]

Your papers are nearly unreadable. That is why. You are a poor communicator and you have no clue that you are. People want to understand you else they wouldn't bother with pages and pages of questioning you.

Why have I not had one single sensible comment from anyone.
Frankly, I dont think that any one wants to understand the AToR. The motivation for posting is merely to knock my ideas. But no-one has managed to do it because you cant successfully criticize what you dont understand.