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Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: 12 Universal Points of Leverage

Post by Plasmatic » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:55 am

If everyone in the world used this set of criteria nobody would be misled. They would be able to lead themselves to the truth.


Which is why man NEEDS the science philosophy. In order to establish such a criteria man has to establish an EXPLICIT metaphysics and epistemology. Folks cant answer your questions yet because they are parotting others ideas on this subject. They maintain this position by blaming authority for their lack of individuation and by spitting out meaningless catchphases that use words others havent defined either in order to appear to be stating something that is relevent. Folks like this dont want the men who do have the ability to create value independantly through reason [intellectual property] to be able to keep them from the fruit of their efforts [property theft] because without them theyd still be sitting in caves and campfires.
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Re: 12 Universal Points of Leverage

Post by junglelord » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:41 pm

altonhare wrote:
We are also being lied to in every conceivable way, from gravity cosmology to society.
-JL
We know shit. They let us know shit. They feed us shit. We then fight about the shit we are in.
-JL
They hold the true power. We are not allowed to know what that is.
-JL

Okay then, I understand you perfectly. The problem here is that "we" (the general public) are accepting theories without questioning them. The problem is that they are not applying any criteria for evaluation. I call this set of criteria the "scientific method" but you can call it "Jungelord's way to know what's real" if you want. If the public applied a valid and consistent set of criteria they would expose relativity, quantum, and string theory for the farces they are. Indeed, the method I have laid out on these boards exposes these theories as falsehoods. If everyone in the world used this set of criteria nobody would be misled. They would be able to lead themselves to the truth.
I have no way as the way, no limitation as limitation.
That is Bruce Lees way.
;)

They sell half truths.
They know, I would wager, almost all truth.
Its not allowable to talk about things that are Classified or Intellectual Property.
Therefore any public discussion is labeled crack pot.
The number one hidden truth....Aether. Number two UFO.

The fact that all the attempts to make a public TOE from the public weave,
is as you say not going to ever be successful. Thats clear and we know its impossible.

I believe that the universe can be known in a way that is not accepted.
I believe we all know when we are about 10.
I believe they intentionally weave that out and weave theirs in.
They want us to conform. Confrom at all levels.
They say we are free. Its a half truth like all others.
Presented as unquestionable, but yet not truly real.

Nothing is quite as they teach. The Secret World of Magnets is a huge improvement in basic theory.
It leaves the other theory not only obsolete, but revealed as actually a total lie. At best a half truth.
Magnets are not at equalibrium. Thats real special. Magnets are Dual Vortex Phenomenon.
Vortex arrangements are the key to understand the universe.
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Re: 12 Universal Points of Leverage

Post by junglelord » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:59 am

I am working at the level of the Manhatten Project.
It is Classified and Leverage 6 Principle.
Thats how far my intuition has gotten ME.
:D
Read and comprehend.

Modern scholars disregarded the idea of the Platonic solids until the 1980s, when Professor Emeritus Robert Moon at the University of Chicago demonstrated the entire periodic table of elements - everything known in the physical world - is based on these five forms.

“Moon worked on the Manhatten Project,”. “He discovered that the form for uranium is a double-dodecahedron.
:D

The first nuclear weapon: Its shape was a dodecahedron.
I KNOW WHY!

Measurements define Structure. Structure and Function cannot be seperated.
Maxwell understood the EM field to be of a mechanical nature.
Therefore a structure is required.
Measurements define the Structure.
APM, Synergetics, 20 Quaternions EM.
All define 4-D Structure of Charge.
Atoms valence shell electrons distributed charges form Platonic Solids.
Hydrogen and its electron forms a Tetrahedron.
Water forms a Teterahedron.
The virus is a icosahedron.
Sacred Geometry is indeed the Key.
Fuller's work goes to the heart of 'number'
in a way that is unprecedented since the
time of plato and ancient number wisdom.
PHI, Pi, e are the harmonic foundations of charge, the universe and all life.
They are interwoven into the Platonic Solids.
Sacred geometry: Invisible blueprint of life

November 13, 2006 10:06 am - By Teddye Snell, Press Staff Writer

From the Egyptians to the Greeks, from the Kabbalistic Jews to the Christians, sacred geometry has been taught throughout time to initiates as a closely guarded secret.

According to Dr. Robert Gilbert, a former U.S. Marine Corps intructor in nuclear-biological-chemical warfare survival who holds a doctorate in international studies, the world is being shaped - sometimes for the worse - by a modern science that manipulates life’s natural patterns, while lacking the contextual understanding to do so responsibly.

Gilbert delivered a two-day seminar, “Sacred Geometry: The Invisible Blueprint of Life,” Friday and Saturday at Sancta Sophia Seminary on Sparrowhawk Mountain.

Gilbert offered attendees insight into once-secret initiation teachings about the hidden relationships between the physical and spiritual worlds. Sacred geometry is the basis for the sacred science of Egypt, and the Pythagorean science of vibrational energies. According to Gilbert, it’s the master key to expanding spiritual awareness, as well as healing the physical body and correcting energetic problems.

Sacred geometry can be related to the “Platonic solids,” or the five shapes that can divide a circle or sphere perfectly. The five forms are the tetrahedron, the octahedron, the hexahedron (cube), the icosahedron and the dodecahedron.

Plato wrote about them in the dialogue “Timaeus,” and he associated each with of the four classical elements. Earth was associated with the cube; air with the octahedron; water with the icosahedron; and fire with the tetrahedron. There was intuitive justification for these associations: The heat of fire feels sharp and stabbing (like little tetrahedra). Air is made of the octahedron; its minuscule components are so smooth that one can barely feel it. Water, the icosahedron, flows out of one’s hand when picked up, as if it is made of tiny little balls. But a highly un-spherical solid, the hexahedron (cube) represents earth. These clumsy little solids cause dirt to crumble and breaks when picked up, in stark contrast to the smooth flow of water.

Plato obscurely says the fifth Platonic solid, the dodecahedron, “...the god used for arranging the constellations on the whole heaven.” Aristotle added a fifth element, “ether,” and postulated that the heavens were made of this element, but he had no interest in matching it with Plato's fifth solid.

It was this fifth solid Gilbert expounded upon.

“The dodecahedron was not widely taught,” said Gilbert. “It is the pure, spiritual lifeforce, and people were told to keep it hidden, as if it were misused, it could create terrible destruction.”

Gilbert indicated many scientists – including those with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration – now believe the earth is shaped like a dodecahedron. Given this information, one of the nodes on the dodecahedron falls in the same area as the famous “Bermuda Triangle.”

“Using a dodecahedron on a world grid analysis, you’ll see the nodal points, pressure points in space and time,” said Gilbert. “Other nodal points on the earth have been known as ‘devil’s graveyards’ because space and time don’t work right.”

Modern scholars disregarded the idea of the Platonic solids until the 1980s, when Professor Emeritus Robert Moon at the University of Chicago demonstrated the entire periodic table of elements - everything known in the physical world - is based on these five forms.

“Moon worked on the Manhatten Project,” said Gilbert. “He discovered that the form for uranium is a double-dodecahedron. The periodic table is a revelation of the spirit - thoughts from the mind of God.”

Gilbert showed a slide of the first nuclear weapon: Its shape was a dodecahedron.

“The element palladium, No. 46 on the periodic table, is part of the platinum family and is connected to alchemy,” said Gilbert. “When palladium is used in combination with other metals and electronic stimulation, it creates what some refer to as cold fusion. However, the problem with cold fusion is that it is not constant. Energetic conditions shift from time to time and place to place, and can even be affected by the person conducting the experiment, much to scientists’ dismay.”
People might find it surprising that Gilbert never really cared for math.


“I never liked math,” said Gilbert. “But geometry is different. As children, we play with shapes and natural forms, but prematurely we force children to look at them in a mathematical process. Math is useful for analysis, but it doesn’t free the soul.”

Gilbert’s reason for providing this information is three-fold.

“In understanding the patterns behind everything in the manifest world, we can start to change things in our personal lives,” he said. “In teaching sacred geometry, people begin to understand the unity between science and spirit. It confirms we can be understood without religious dogma, as it’s a type of spirituality that unites people. Finally, it provides a unity between traditions based on what we all encounter; geometry is universal in nature, no matter what the religion.


Since leaving the service in 1985, Gilbert has conducted independent research into the geometric basis of modern science and new technologies. He is also a Rosicrucian with more than 20 years’ experience in sacred geometry and its hidden uses by the world’s spiritual traditions.

In 1997, he began for the first time to teach publicly the results of his two decades of intensive research, and continues teaching both publicly and privately in Asheville, N.C.

While at Sparrowhawk Village, Gilbert and his wife, Elizabeth, stayed with Dr. Robert Willson, former dean of Sancta Sophia Seminary and inventor of the technology for the plasma-screen television.
Willson was highly interested in Gilbert’s work.

“I resisted [the theory of sacred geometry] for a long time, because I couldn’t break free from my own scientific background,” said Willson. “After reading several wonderful books on the subject, I just surrendered, and now I get it!”

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If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
— Nikola Tesla
Casting Out the Nines from PHI into Indigs reveals the Cosmic Harmonic Code.
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Re: 12 Universal Points of Leverage

Post by lizzie » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:34 pm

Junglelord said:
Imagine how much Leverage you posses with "Classified Information"?
The Industrial Military Complex.
Where would that leverage go if that point was eliminated?
Ie how would the system self assemble?
I think there would be balance. But not within this Paradigm.
It may be impossible to ever have free knowledge.
Not because it would not work...but because it is not allowed.
This keeping of knowledge due to National Security is always growing.
They are supposed to be doing Star Trek stuff according to the deceased head of Skunkworks.
They are 50 years ahead of anything you can dream of.
That kinda sucks.
War MACHINE , War MACHINE
Only 50 years? How about 75 to 100.

Black Projects
http://www.dreamlandresort.com/black_pr ... rcraft.htm

B-2 Spirit Stealth Bomber, USA
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/b2/

Orb War
http://www.orbwar.com/

The Phenomenon Archives
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=XUJJVEIV

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=U9K1Q1IJ

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=VO0MCQIF

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=5E4PSJL7

Antigravity doesn’t exist?

Keely’s Antigavity Airships
http://keelynet.com/gravity/saucsong.htm

http://beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Sc ... rship4.txt

http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal ... nergy2.htm

The Aelians are Coming
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ha ... in_pt8.htm

Einstein’s Antigravity
http://www.americanantigravity.com/docu ... ravity.pdf

The SS Brotherhood of the Bell: The Nazis’ Incredible Secret Technology
http://www.mysterious-america.net/bookreviews407.html

Operation Paperclip
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/pr ... erclip.htm

Free Energy has not been developed?

Project Tesla
http://www.geocities.com/area51/shadowl ... tesla.html

Suppressed Inventions
http://befreetech.com/suppressed_inventions.htm

Suppression of the Self-Powering Battery? 

http://svpvril.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1155

Joe Cell Replication Project
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Bill_Williams'_Joe_Cell
Junglelord said:
Pay attention.
Consider that intellectual property is at an all time high, Classified Information is at an all time high.
We are also being lied to in every conceivable way, from gravity cosmology to society.
We know shit. They let us know shit. They feed us shit. We then fight about the shit we are in.
If "history" is written by the winners does that mean that all "history" is propaganda?

Manufactured Reality
http://www.threeworldwars.com/intro.htm
Junglelord said:
Now you know why to me the sacred cows of science and philosophy are founded on illusions.
They hold the true power. We are not allowed to know what that is.
Its intellectual property, classifed intelligence and your brain washed anyway.
They sell half truths.
They know, I would wager, almost all truth.
Its not allowable to talk about things that are Classified or Intellectual Property.
Therefore any public discussion is labeled crack pot.
There will be no “free energy” until the “right people” own all the patents?

Why has Tom Bearden given up on Phase Conjugation?
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowl ... econj.html

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Re: 12 Universal Points of Leverage

Post by junglelord » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:32 pm

The actual relationship is introduced by Fuller.
Unity is plural and at minimum 2.
This means that 720 is the essential quantity....not 360.
Quantum spin numbers bear this out. Fuller understood this and more! He did not stop at the .01%!
From a understanding of inner and outer space, both the .01% and the other 99.99%
Fuller was able to realize that the VE of proper spacing of closed packed spheres (distributed charge)
was 12 with a center sphere that could Jitterbug the entire structure. These 12 vector equilibrium leverage points apply to all systems. This allows someone to understand the relationships of VE in all systems. This leverage is then your ticket and key to power and change in all systems.
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Casting Out the Nines from PHI into Indigs reveals the Cosmic Harmonic Code.
— Junglelord.
Knowledge is Structured in Consciouness. Structure and Function Cannot Be Seperated.
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Re: 12 Universal Points of Leverage

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Re: 12 Universal Points of Leverage

Post by seasmith » Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:46 pm

junglelord wrote:

4 Pi [not PHI or phi]
720 is the essential quantity
or in standard notation:

http://www.physicsforums.com/latex_imag ... 2186-0.jpg

as per Upriver's post:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 613#p12613

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Re: 12 Universal Points of Leverage

Post by junglelord » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:30 pm

I was researching DMT and the Pineal Gland and ran across this rather interesting web page.
Seems that the VE Matrix is the universeal experience on DMT.

12 Around 1
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Reality begins as a source of sound, light and color, resembling a pulsating orb which is a consciousness program through which 12 spiraling cones burst forth to create endless grid programs. "Cones" link with "horns" or creational harmonics and other "horn" references found in mythology, especially those linked to gods and angels. It all began with a tone and so it shall end.

Souls sparks of light spiral out from the central source, randomly moving into the grids to consciously experience programs simultaneously. This movement of souls resembles spiraling galaxies linked with creation through the eye, the lens of time, projected illusion through the looking glass, Eye of God, etc.

The pattern "12 around 1" repeats in time (loops) as does the spiraling movement of consciousness referred to as sacred geometry. When understood, "12 around 1" acts as a subliminal archetype that helps souls remember reality and creation as a virtual construct having a beginning and an end to which we move closer. Slinky Effect

The "12 around 1 pattern" (12 = 1+2=3) or third dimension, 3D for 'drama', as physical reality is nothing more than a biogenetic experiment based on linear time to experience the full gamut of emotions.

We mark time in cycles, circles, loops, etc. We find "12 around 1" on a clock, calendar, zodiac wheel, alchemy wheel, wheel of time and karma, mandalas, etc.

http://www.crystalinks.com/12around1.html
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Casting Out the Nines from PHI into Indigs reveals the Cosmic Harmonic Code.
— Junglelord.
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— Junglelord

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Post by junglelord » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:06 am

I will tell you whats real, Ayn Rand and her work is a NWO blueprint. Ayn Rand was a mistress to Philippe Rothschild. Her work is their goal, hand in hand. Seems to be working exactly as planned. The financial results of their handiwork is plain to the eye. They have bankrupted the entire world. Exactly to plan. Soon they will have completed their goal. If your not aware of the bankrupt state of the American country, then your in denial like them. Wallstreets bloodless coup on Washington is complete. The pegs have all hit the desired hole and the Rothschild's are laughing all the way to the control of every country, Its going to be quite the ride.
Many of you may already know that the book "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand, is the blueprint for the New World Order (see below). In fact it is little known habit of the elite to place a copy this book like the one below (35th anniversary gold embossed) on their coffee tables. If you are one of "them" you will be able to quickly identity that these people (who process this book) are "in the know". This is really no different than a Freemason using a secret handshake to identify a fellow Mason.

ATLAS SHRUGGED

In 1957, a 1,168 page book by Ayn Rand, called Atlas Shrugged, was published. According to one source, Rand was alleged to be a mistress to Philippe Rothschild, who instructed her to write the book in order to show that through the raising of oil prices, then destroying the oil fields and shutting down the coal mines, the Illuminati would take over the world. It also related how they would blow up grain mills, derail trains, bankrupt and destroy their own companies, till they had destroyed the economy of the entire world; and yet, they would be so wealthy, that it would not substantially affect their vast holdings. The novel is about a man who stops the motor of the world, of what happens when “the men of the mind, the intellectuals of the world, the originators and innovators in every line of industry go on strike; when the men of creative ability in every profession, in protest against regulation, quit and disappear.”

If we are to believe that the book represents the Illuminati’s plans for the future, then the following excerpts may provide some insight to the mentality of the elitists who are preparing us for one-world government.

One of the characters, Francisco d’Anconia, a copper industrialist and heir to a great fortune, the first to join the strike, says:

“I am destroying d’Anconia Copper, consciously, deliberately, by plan and by my own hand. I have to plan it carefully and work as hard as if I were producing a fortune- in order not to let them notice it and stop me, in order not to let them seize the mines until it is too late ... I shall destroy every last bit of it and every last penny of my fortune and every ounce of copper that could feed the looters. I shall not leave it as I found it- I shall leave it as Sebastian d’Anconia found it- then let them try to exist without him or me!”

A bit later, d’Anconia says: “We produced the wealth of the world- but we let our enemies write its moral code.” Still later, he says: “We’ll survive without it. They won’t.”

Dagney Taggart, the main character of the book, is the head of the Taggart Transcontinental Railroad. Her goal was to find out who John Galt was. She discovered that he was a young inventor with the Twentieth Century Motor Company, who said he would put an end to the regulations which bound a man to his job indefinitely. Before disappearing, he said: “I will stop the motor of the world.” He told her:

“Dagney, we who’ve been called ‘materialists’ ... we’re the only ones who know how little value or meaning there is in material objects ... we’re the ones who create their value and meaning. We can afford to give them up ... We are the soul, of which railroads, copper mines, steel mines, and oil wells are the body- and they are living entities that beat day and night, like our hearts, in the sacred function of supporting human life, but only so long as they remain our body, only so long as they remain the expression, the reward and the property of achievement. Without us, they are corpses and their sole product is poison, not wealth or food, the poison of disintegration that turns men into hordes of scavengers ... You do not have to depend on any material possessions, they depend on you, you create them, you own the one and only tool of production ... leave them the carcass of that railroad, leave them all the rusted nails and rotted ties and gutted engines- but don’t leave them your mind.”

Later in the book, Galt says:

“And the same will be happening in every other industry, wherever machines are used- the machines which they thought could replace our minds. Plane crashes, oil tank explosions, blast furnace breakouts, high tension wire electrocutions, subway cave-ins, and trestle collapses- they’ll see them all. The very machines that made their life so safe- will now make it a continuous peril ... You know that the cities will be hit worst of all. The cities were made by the railroads and will go with them ... When the rails are cut, the city of New York will starve in two days. That’s all the supply of food its got. It’s fed by a continent three thousand miles long. How will they carry food to New York? By directive and ox-cart? But first, before it happens, they’ll go through the whole of the agony- through the shrinking, the shortages, the hunger riots, the stampeding violence in the midst of the growing stillness ... They’ll lose the airplanes first, then their automobiles, then their trucks, then their horsecarts .. Their factories will stop, then their furnaces and their radios. Then their electric light system will go.”

Francisco d’Anconia, who blew up all the copper mines in the world, said of Galt:

“He had quit the Twentieth Century. He was living in a garret in a slum neighborhood. He stepped to the window and pointed at the skyscrapers of the city. He said that we had to extinguish the lights of the world, and when we would see the lights of New York go out, we would know that our job was done.”

Galt led the men of the mind, on strike, and they retired to a self-supporting valley, where a character, Midas Mulligan, says that “the world is falling apart so fast that it will soon be starving. But we will be able to support ourselves in this valley.” Galt said: “There is only one kind of men who have never been on strike in human history ... the men who have carried the world on their shoulders, have kept it alive, have endured torture as sole payment ... Well, their turn has come. Let the world discover who they are, what they do and what happens when they refuse to function. This is the strike of the men of the mind.”

The book describes what resulted from the strike: “But years later, when we saw the lights going out, one after another, in the great factories that had stood like mountains for generations, when we saw the gates closing and the conveyer belts turning still, when we saw the roads growing empty and the streams of cars draining off, when it began to look as if some silent power were stopping the generators of the world and the world was crumbling quietly...” And the culmination of their efforts: “The plane was above the peaks of the skyscrapers when suddenly, with the abruptness of a shudder, as if the ground had parted to engulf it, the city had disappeared from the face of the earth. It took them a moment to realize that the panic had reached the power stations- and the lights of New York had gone out.” The men of the mind had taken over the world.

Ayn Rand, author of Atlas Shrugged, which was a bestseller; had previously written We the Living (1936); The Fountainhead (1943), which became a 1949 movie starring Gary Cooper as an architect willing to blow up his own work, rather than see it perverted by public housing bureaucrats; and Anthem (1946). She later wrote For the New Intellectual (1961), Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal (1966), and The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution (1970). She also published a monthly journal (with Nathaniel Branden, a psychological theorist) called The Objectivist.

Rand based her novel on her philosophy which she calls Objectivism. As she puts it: “We are the radicals for capitalism ... because it is the only system geared to the life of a rational being ... The method of capitalism’s destruction rests on never letting the world discover what it is that is being destroyed.” She also said about the book: “I trust that no one will tell me that men such as I write about don’t exist. That this book has been written- and published- is proof that they do.”

In the book Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, in a chapter titled “Is Atlas Shrugging” she wrote that “the purpose of this book is to prevent itself from being prophetic.” She also quoted several news stories which seemed to indicate that the world was indeed being depleted of its brains and intellectuals.

Is Atlas Shrugged a coded blueprint for the Illuminati’s plans of bringing this world to a point where they can institute a one world government? It certainly is thought provoking, and it is included only for the sake of conjecture. Being that the Illuminati is destroying our economy, and they do control the corporate structure of the United States, if not the world, there just may be something to this book, and maybe we should consider it a warning.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/2007/0322a.htm
If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
— Nikola Tesla
Casting Out the Nines from PHI into Indigs reveals the Cosmic Harmonic Code.
— Junglelord.
Knowledge is Structured in Consciouness. Structure and Function Cannot Be Seperated.
— Junglelord

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Re: What is Real?

Post by Plasmatic » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:37 am

What a hilarious pile of complete stupidity. This has NOTHING to do with anything on this forum.The article shows that the author is either intentionally dishonest or never read the book. This shows that you have absolutely NO rebuttal to anything she says so you are trying to resort to discrediting her character. You havent read a thing about her im sure.If you did you would know that a consistently opposite philosophy is what has grown everywhere. This would be obvious because the collectivist assault on reason and individuality [like private/intellectual property] in the book is precisley what is taking place all around us.
Francisco d’Anconia, who blew up all the copper mines in the world
This is completely false. Fransico destroyed his own property to prevent others from stealing it by force.This shows these idiots have no idea what theyre talking about.It also shows what happens when someone posts an attack on something they havent investigated whatsover.

Good job Jl :!: !
The method of capitalism’s destruction rests on never letting the world discover what it is that is being destroyed.” She also said about the book: “I trust that no one will tell me that men such as I write about don’t exist. That this book has been written- and published- is proof that they do.”

In the book Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, in a chapter titled “Is Atlas Shrugging” she wrote that “the purpose of this book is to prevent itself from being prophetic.” She also quoted several news stories which seemed to indicate that the world was indeed being depleted of its brains and intellectuals.
Behold what Junglelords defending what "the men of the mind" refused to submit to:

They had not heard the text of Directive No. 10-289, but they knew what it would contain. They had known it for a long time, in that special manner which consisted of keeping secrets from oneself and leaving knowledge untranslated into words. And, by the same method, they now wished it were possible for them not to hear the words of the directive. It was to avoid moments such as this that all the complex twistings of their minds had been devised.
They wished the directive to go into effect. They wished it could be put into effect without words, so that they would not have to know that what they were doing was what it was. Nobody had ever announced that Directive No. 10-289 was the final goal of his efforts. Yet, for generations past, men had worked to make it possible, and for months past, every provision of it had been prepared for by countless speeches, articles, sermons, editorials—by purposeful voices that screamed with anger if anyone named their purpose."This is just a rough draft of Directive Number 10-289," said Wesley Mouch, "which Gene, Clem and I have dashed off just to give you the general idea. We want to hear your opinions, suggestions and so forth—you being the representatives of labor, industry, transportation and the professions."
Fred Kinnan got off the window sill and sat down on the arm of a chair. Orren Boyle spit out the butt of his cigar. James Taggart looked down at his own hands. Dr. Ferris was the only one who seemed to be at ease.
"In the name of the general welfare," read Wesley Mouch, "to protect the people's security, to achieve full equality and total stability, it is decreed for the duration of the national emergency that—
"Point One. All workers, wage earners and employees of any kind whatsoever shall henceforth be attached to their jobs and shall not leave nor be dismissed nor change employment, under penalty of a term in jail. The penalty shall be determined by the Unification Board, such Board to be appointed by the Bureau of Economic Planning and National Resources. All persons reaching the age of twenty-one shall report to the Unification Board, which shall assign them to where, in its opinion, their services will best serve the interests of the nation.
"Point Two. All industrial, commercial, manufacturing and business establishments of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit nor leave nor retire, nor close, sell or transfer their business, under penalty of the nationalization of their establishment and of any and all of their property."Point Three. All patents and copyrights, pertaining to any devices, inventions, formulas, processes and works of any nature whatsoever, shall be turned over to the nation as a patriotic emergency gift by means of Gift Certificates to be signed voluntarily by the owners of all such patents and copyrights. The Unification Board shall then license the use of such patents and copyrights to all applicants, equally and without discrimination, for the purpose of eliminating monopolistic practices, discarding obsolete products and making the best available to the whole nation. No trademarks, brand names or copyrighted titles shall be used. Every formerly patented product shall be known by a new name and sold by all manufacturers under the same name, such name to be selected by the Unification <as_500> Board. All private trademarks and brand names are hereby abolished.
"Point Four. No new devices, inventions, products, or goods of any nature whatsoever, not now on the market, shall be produced, invented, manufactured or sold after the date of this directive. The Office of Patents and Copyrights is hereby suspended.
"Point Five. Every establishment, concern, corporation or person engaged in production of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth produce the same amount of goods per year as it, they or he produced during the Basic Year, no more and no less. The year to be known as the Basic or Yardstick Year is to be the year ending on the date of this directive. Over or under production shall be fined, such fines to be determined by the Unification Board.
"Point Six. Every person of any age, sex, class or income, shall henceforth spend the same amount of money on the purchase of goods per year as he or she spent during the Basic Year, no more and no less. Over or under purchasing shall be fined, such fines to be determined by the Unification Board.
"Point Seven. All wages, prices, salaries, dividends, profits, interest rates and forms of income of any nature whatsoever, shall be frozen at their present figures, as of the date of this directive.
"Point Eight. All cases arising from and rules not specifically provided for in this directive, shall be settled and determined by the Unification Board, whose decisions will be final.".......Lawson looked away. "To hell with them! Why should we worry about them? We've got to run the world for the sake of the little people. <as_501> It's intelligence that's caused all the troubles of humanity. Man's mind is the root of all evil. This is the day of the heart. It's the weak, the meek, the sick and the humble that must be the only objects of our concern." His lower lip was twisting in soft, lecherous motions. "Those who're big are here to serve those who aren't. If they refuse to do their moral duty, we've got to force them. There once was an Age of Reason, but we've progressed beyond it. This is the Age of Love."...."Genius is a superstition, Jim," said Dr. Ferris slowly, with an odd kind of emphasis, as if knowing that he was naming the unnamed in all their minds. "There's no such thing as the intellect. A man's brain is a social product. A sum of influences that he's picked up from those around him. Nobody invents anything, he merely reflects what's floating in the social atmosphere. A genius is an intellectual scavenger and a greedy hoarder of the ideas which rightfully belong to society, from which he stole them. All thought is theft. If we do away with private fortunes, we'll have a fairer distribution of wealth. If we do away with genius, we'll have a fairer distribution of ideas."....."Stop kidding yourself," said Kinnan. "The country? If there aren't any principles any more—and I guess the doc is right, because there sure aren't—if there aren't any rules to this game and it's only a question of who robs whom—then I've got more votes than the bunch of you, there are more workers than employers, and don't you forget it, boys!"
"That's a funny attitude to take," said Taggart haughtily, "about a measure which, after all, is not designed for the selfish benefit of workers or employers, but for the general welfare of the public."
"Okay," said Kinnan amiably, "let's talk your lingo. Who is the public? If you go by quality—then it ain't you, Jim, and it ain't Orrie Boyle. If you go by quantity—then it sure is me, because quantity is what I've got behind me." His smile disappeared, and with a sudden, bitter look of weariness he added, "Only I'm not going to say that I'm working for the welfare of my public, because I know I'm not. I know that I'm delivering the poor bastards into slavery, and that's all there is to it. And they know it, too. But they know that I'll have to throw them a crumb once in a while, if I want to keep my racket, while with the rest of you they wouldn't have a chance in hell. So that's why, if they've got to be under a whip, they'd rather I held it, not you—you drooling, tear-jerking, mealy-mouthed bastards of the public welfare! .........Do you think that outside of your college-bred pansies there's one village idiot whom you're fooling? I'm a racketeer—but I know it and my boys know it, and they know that I'll pay off. <as_503> Not out of the kindness of my heart, either, and not a cent more than I can get away with, but at least they can count on that much. Sure, it makes me sick sometimes, it makes me sick right now, but it's not me who's built this kind of world—you did—so I'm playing the game as you've set it up and I'm going to play it for as long as it lasts—which isn't going to be long for any of us!"....
Everything will have to remain as it is. Just as it is. Nobody will be permitted to change anything. Except—" He turned sharply to Wesley Mouch. "Wesley, under Point Four, we'll have to close all research departments, experimental laboratories, scientific foundations and all the rest of the institutions of that kind. They'll have to be forbidden."
"Yes, that's right," said Mouch. "I hadn't thought of that. We'll have to stick in a couple of lines about that." He hunted around for a pencil and made a few scrawls on the margin of his paper.
"It will end wasteful competition," said James Taggart. "We'll stop scrambling to beat one another to the untried and the unknown. We won't have to worry about new inventions upsetting the market. We won't have to pour money down the drain in useless experiments just to keep up with overambitious competitors."
"Yes," said Orren Boyle. "Nobody should be allowed to waste money on the new until everybody has plenty of the old. Close all those damn research laboratories—and the sooner, the better."
"Yes," said Wesley Mouch. "We'll close them. All of them."
"The State Science Institute, too?" asked Fred Kinnan.
"Oh, no!" said Mouch. "That's different. That's government. Besides, it's a non-profit, institution. And it will be sufficient to take care of all scientific progress."....Quite sufficient," said Dr. Ferris.
"And what will become of all the engineers, professors and such, when you close all those laboratories?" asked Fred Kinnan. "What are they going to do for a living, with all the other jobs and businesses frozen?"
"Oh," said Wesley Mouch. He scratched his head. He turned to Mr. Weatherby. "Do we put them on relief, Clem?" <as_504>
"No," said Mr. Weatherby. "What for? There's not enough of them to raise a squawk. Not enough to matter."
"I suppose," said Mouch, turning to Dr. Ferris, "that you'll be able to absorb some of them, Floyd?"
"Some," said Dr. Ferris slowly, as if relishing every syllable of his answer. "Those who prove co-operative."
"What about the rest?" said Fred Kinnan.
"They'll have to wait till the Unification Board finds some use for them," said Wesley Mouch.
"What will they eat while they're waiting?"
Mouch shrugged. "There's got to be some victims in times of national emergency. It can't be helped."
"We have the right to do it!" cried Taggart suddenly, in defiance to the stillness of the room. "We need it. We need it, don't we?" There was no answer. "We have the right to protect our livelihood!" Nobody opposed him, but he went on with a shrill, pleading insistence. "We'll be safe for the first time in centuries. Everybody will know his place and job, ...and everybody else's place and job—and we won't be at the mercy of every stray crank with a new idea. Nobody will push us out of business or steal our markets or undersell us or make us obsolete. Nobody will come to us offering some damn new gadget and putting us on the spot to decide whether we'll lose our shirt if we buy it, or whether we'll lose our shirt if we don't but somebody else does! We won't have to decide. Nobody will be permitted to decide anything; it will be decided once and for all." His glance moved pleadingly from face to face. "There's been enough invented already—enough for everybody's comfort—why should they be allowed to go on inventing? Why should we permit them to blast the ground from under our feet every few steps? Why should we be kept on the go in eternal uncertainty? Just because of a few restless, ambitious adventurers? Should we sacrifice the contentment of the whole of mankind to the greed of a few non-conformists? We don't need them. We don't need them at all. I wish we'd get rid of that hero worship! Heroes? They've done nothing but harm, all through history. They've kept mankind running a wild race, with no breathing spell, no rest, no ease, no security. Running to catch up with them … always, without end .. Just as we catch up, they're years ahead.… They leave us no chance … They've never left us a chance.…
"His eyes were moving restlessly; he glanced at the window, but looked hastily away: he did not want to see the white obelisk in the distance. "We're through with them. We've won. This is our age. Our world. We're going to have security—for the first time in centuries—for the first time since the beginning of the industrial revolution!"
"Well, this, I guess," said Fred Kinnan, "is the anti-industrial revolution."
"That's a damn funny thing for you to say!" snapped Wesley
Mouch. "We can't be permitted to say that to the public."
"Don't worry, brother. I won't say it to the public."


It's a total fallacy," said Dr. Ferris. "It's a statement prompted by ignorance. Every expert has conceded long ago that a planned economy <as_505> achieves the maximum of productive efficiency and that centralization leads to super-industrialization."
"Centralization destroys the blight of monopoly," said Boyle.
"How's that again?" drawled Kinnan.
Boyle did not catch the tone of mockery, and answered earnestly, "It destroys the blight of monopoly. It leads to the democratization of industry. It makes everything available to everybody. Now, for instance, at a time like this, when there's such a desperate shortage of iron ore, is there any sense in my wasting money, labor and national resources on making old-fashioned steel, when there exists a much better metal that I could be making? A metal that everybody wants, but nobody can get. Now is that good economics or sound social efficiency or democratic justice? Why shouldn't I be allowed to manufacture that metal and why shouldn't the people get it when they need it? Just because of the private monopoly of one selfish individual? Should we sacrifice our rights to his personal interests?"
"Skip it, brother," said Fred Kinnan. "I've read it all in the same newspapers you did."
"I don't like your attitude," said Boyle, in a sudden tone of righteousness, with a look which, in a barroom, would have signified a prelude to a fist fight. He sat up straight, buttressed by the columns of paragraphs on yellow-tinged paper, which he was seeing in his mind:
"At a time of crucial public need, are we to waste social effort on the manufacture of obsolete products? Are we to let the many remain in want while the few withhold from us the better products and methods available? Are we to be stopped by the superstition of patent rights?"
"Is it not obvious that private industry is unable to cope with the present economic crisis? How long, for instance, are we going to put up with the disgraceful shortage of Rearden Metal? There is a crying public demand for it, which Rearden has failed to supply."
"When are we going to put an end to economic injustice and special privileges? Why should Rearden be the only one permitted to manufacture Rearden Metal?"
"I don't like your attitude," said Orren Boyle. "So long as we respect the rights of the workers, we'll want you to respect the rights of the industrialists."
"Which rights of which industrialists?" drawled Kinnan.
"I'm inclined to think," said Dr. Ferris hastily, "that Point Two, perhaps, is the most essential one of all at present. We must put an end to that peculiar business of industrialists retiring and vanishing. We must stop them. It's playing havoc with our entire economy."
"Why are they doing it?" asked Taggart nervously. "Where are they all going?"
"Nobody knows," said Dr. Ferris. "We've been unable to find any information or explanation. But it must be stopped. In times of crisis, economic service to the nation is just as much of a duty as military service. Anyone who abandons it should be regarded as a <as_506> deserter. I have recommended that we introduce the death penalty for those men..."The danger that I'm worried about will come from a different quarter," said Dr. Ferris thoughtfully. "You might run into quite a bit of trouble on that 'voluntary Gift Certificate' business, Wesley."
"I know," said Mouch glumly. "That's the point I wanted Thompson to help us out on. But I guess he can't. We don't actually have the legal power to seize the patents. Oh, there's plenty of clauses in dozens of laws that can be stretched to cover it—almost, but not quite. Any tycoon who'd want to make a test case would have a very good chance to beat us. And we have to preserve a semblance of legality—or the populace won't take it."
"Precisely," said Dr. Ferris. "It's extremely important to get those patents turned over to us voluntarily. Even if we had a law permitting outright nationalization, it would be much better to get them as a gift. We want to leave the people the illusion that they're still preserving their private property rights. And most of them will play along. They'll sign the Gift Certificates. Just raise a lot of noise about its being a patriotic duty and that anyone who refuses is a prince of greed, and they'll sign....

Dagny, when I took over my father's business, when I began to deal with the whole industrial system of the world, it was then that I began to see the nature of the evil I had suspected, but thought too monstrous to believe. I saw the tax-collecting vermin that had grown for centuries like mildew on d'Anconia Copper, draining us by no right that anyone could name—I saw the government regulations passed to cripple me, because I was successful, and to help my competitors, because they were loafing failures—I saw the labor unions who won every claim against me, by reason of my ability to make their livelihood possible—I saw that any man's desire for money he could not earn was regarded as a righteous wish, but if he earned it, it was damned as greed—I saw the politicians who winked at me, telling me not to worry, because I could just work a little harder and outsmart them <as_707> all. I looked past the profits of the moment, and I saw that the harder. I worked, the more I tightened the noose around my throat, I saw that my energy was being poured down a sewer, that the parasites who fed on me were being fed upon in their turn, that they were caught in their own trap—and that there was no reason for it, no answer known to anyone, that the sewer pipes of the world, draining its productive blood, led into some dank fog nobody had dared to pierce, while people merely shrugged and said that life on earth could be nothing but evil. And then I sawthat the whole industrial establishment of the world, with all of its magnificent machinery, its thousand-ton furnaces, its transatlantic cables, its mahogany offices, its stock exchanges, its blazing electric signs, its power, its wealth—all of it was run, not by bankers and boards of directors, but by any unshaved humanitarian in any basement beer joint, by any face pudgy with malice, who preached that virtue must be penalized for being virtue, that the purpose of ability is to serve incompetence, that man has no right to exist except for the sake of others.… I knew it. I saw no way to fight it. John found the way, There were just the two of us with him, the night when we came to New York in answer to his call, Ragnar and I. He told us what we had to do and what sort of men we had to reach. He had quit the Twentieth Century. He was living in a garret in a slum neighborhood. He stepped to the window and pointed at the skyscrapers of the city. He said that we had to extinguish the lights of the world, and when we would see the lights of New York go out, we would know that our job was done. He did not ask us to join him at once. He told us to think it over and to weigh everything it would do to our lives. I gave him my answer on the morning of the second day, and Ragnar a few hours later, in the afternoon.…

Junglelord wrote:
Consider that intellectual property is at an all time high, Classified Information is at an all time high.
We are also being lied to in every conceivable way, from gravity cosmology to society.


We know shit. They let us know shit. They feed us shit. We then fight about the shit we are in.


Now you know why to me the sacred cows of science and philosophy are founded on illusions.
They hold the true power. We are not allowed to know what that is.
Its intellectual property, classifed intelligence and your brain washed anyway.

Ps I expect these post will dissappear as well they should.
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Re: What is Real?

Post by junglelord » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:07 am

In bed with Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand was a mistress to Philippe Rothschild!
Remember Shrek 3?
A little puppet that cannot lie?
:lol:

Prince: You! You can't lie. So tell me, puppet, where is Shrek?

Pinocchio: Uh, well, uh, I don't know where he's not.

Prince: You're telling me you don't know where Shrek is?

Pinocchio: It wouldn't be inaccurate to assume that I couldn't exactly not say that it is or isn't almost partially incorrect.

Prince: So you do know where he is?

Pinocchio: On the contrary, I'm possibly more or less not definitely rejecting the idea that in no way, with any amount of uncertainty, that I undeniably do or do not know where he shouldn't probably be. If that indeed wasn't where he isn't. Even if he wasn't now where I knew he was, that could mean that I could definite not know where I knew he wasn't.

Prince: Stop it!

Second Pig: Enough! Shrek went off to bring back the next heir! Oh!

Pinocchio: (nervous laugh)

Prince: He's bringing back the next heir?

Pinocchio: No! (nose grows)
ATLAS SHRUGGED

The financial crisis is deepening, with the risk of seriously disrupting the system of international payments.

This crisis is far more serious than the Great Depression. All major sectors of the global economy are affected. Recent reports suggest that the system of Letters of Credit as well as international shipping, which constitute the lifeline of the international trading system, are potentially in jeopardy.

The proposed bank "bailout" under the so-called Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is not a "solution" to the crisis but the "cause" of further collapse.

The "bailout" contributes to a further process of destabilization of the financial architecture. It transfers large amounts of public money, at taxpayers expense, into the hands of private financiers. It leads to a spiraling public debt and an unprecedented centralization of banking power. Moreover, the bailout money is used by the financial giants to secure corporate acquisitions both in the financial sector and the real economy.

In turn, this unprecedented concentration of financial power spearheads entire sectors of industry and the services economy into bankruptcy, leading to the layoff of tens of thousands of workers.

The upper spheres of Wall Street overshadow the real economy. The accumulation of large amounts of money wealth by a handful of Wall Street conglomerates and their associated hedge funds is reinvested in the acquisition of real assets.

Paper wealth is transformed into the ownership and control of real productive assets, including industry, services, natural resources, infrastructure, etc.

Collapse of Consumer Demand

The real economy is in crisis. The resulting increase in unemployment is conducive to a dramatic decline in consumer spending which in turn backlashes on the levels of production of goods and services.

Exacerbated by neoliberal macro-economic policy, this downward spiral is cumulative, ultimately leading to an oversupply of commodities.

Business enterprises cannot sell their products, because workers have been laid off. Consumers, namely working people, have been deprived of the purchasing power required to fuel economic growth. With their meager earnings, they cannot afford to acquire the goods produced.

Overproduction Triggers a String of Bankruptcies

Inventories of unsold goods pile up. Eventually, production collapses; the supply of commodities declines through the closing down of production facilities, including manufacturing assembly plants.

In the process of plant closure, more workers become unemployed. Thousands of bankrupt firms are driven off the economic landscape, leading to a slump in production.

Mass poverty and a Worldwide decline in living standards is the result of low wages and mass unemployment. It is the outcome of a preexisting global cheap labor economy, largely characterized by low wage assembly plants in Third World countries.

The current crisis extends the geographic contours of the cheap labor economy, leading to the impoverishment of large sectors of the population in the so-called developed countries (including the middle classes).

In the US, Canada and Western Europe, the entire industrial sector is potentially in jeopardy.

We are dealing with a long-term process of economic and financial restructuring. In its earlier phase, starting in the 1980s during the Reagan Thatcher era, local and regional level enterprises, family farms and small businesses were displaced and destroyed. In turn, the merger and acquisition boom of the 1990s led to the concurrent consolidation of large corporate entities both in the real economy as well as in banking and financial services.

In recent developments, however, the concentration of bank power has been at the expense of big business.

What is distinct in this particular phase of the crisis, is the ability of the financial giants (through their overriding control over credit) not only to create havoc in the production of goods and services, but also to undermine and destroy large corporate entities of the real economy.

Bankruptcies are occurring in all major sectors of activity: Manufacturing, telecoms, consumer retail outlets, shopping malls, airlines, hotels and tourism, not to mention real estate and the construction industry, victims of the subprime mortgage meltdown.

General Motors has confirmed that "it could run out of cash within a few months, which could prompt one of the biggest bankruptcy filings in U.S. history". (USNews.com, November 11, 2008)) In turn this would backlash on a string of related industries. Estimates of job losses in the US auto industry range from 30,000 to as much as 100,000.
ATLAS SHRUGGED

On the weekend, senator Jim Inhofe admitted Congress was told lies about the bailout of the financial system – now revealed as a giveaway to the bankers — and said Congress should take back what is left of the $700 billion “blank check” it gave the Treasury and its coterie of ex-Goldman Sachs manipulators.

November 14, Oversight Subcommittee on Domestic Policy: Kashkari claims Paulson and the Treasury are "passionate" about helping homeowners and Rep. Kucinich responds by saying, "He is? In what country?"

“It is just outrageous that the American people don’t know that Congress doesn’t know how much money he (Henry Paulson) has given away to anyone,” Inhofe told Tulsa World. “It could be to his friends. It could be to anybody else. We don’t know. There is no way of knowing.”

In September, Fed chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury secretary Henry Paulson promised to comply with congressional demands for transparency. A key provision of the bailout was independent oversight and stringent monitoring reports with fixed deadlines. In the time since the bill was passed on a short timeline and under threat of martial law, the newly created post of Inspector General has gone wanting, Congress has yet to nominate a five member oversight panel, and Bush has not submitted a name for confirmation as spelled out in the bill. According to the Houston Chronicle, the Congressional Budget Office “is struggling to hire people who can understand the intensely complicated financial work involved.”

As Inhofe suggests, Paulson and Bernanke have exploited this situation to give away billions to their banker friends. The original Treasury plan called for the purchase of mortgage-backed securities under auction protocols to be determined by the Office of Financial Stability. Paulson and crew promised to work through the Department of Housing and Urban Development with distressed homeowners in an effort to keep them in their homes and avoid foreclosure. Instead, Paulson and Bush wasted little time announcing that the Treasury would leave homeowners out in the cold and buy equity stakes in banks including Goldman Sachs Group, Inc, Morgan Stanley, J.P. MorganChase & Co, Bank of America Corp, Citigroup Inc, Wells Fargo & Company, Bank of New York Mellon and State Street Corp and smaller banks. In addition, the bailout money was slated to go for banker bonuses and exorbitant compensation packages.


Last week, Neel Kashkari, a former Goldman Sachs VP, acting as Interim Assistant Treasury Secretary for Financial Stability, went before the House Oversight and Government Reform subcommittee on domestic policy to answer for this change in policy. “It’s very clear that Treasury cannot and will not make the effort to keep people in their homes,” declared Rep. Darrell Issa, a California Republican. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, chairman of the panel, went further, stating that the Treasury Department had “abdicated its responsibility” to prevent home foreclosures and accused Paulson breaking with congressional intent and contradicting public assurances previously made by Paulson and his former Goldman Sachs cronies.

Paulson “was able to get this authority from Congress predicated on what he was going to do, and then he didn’t do it,” Inhofe said. “I have learned a long time ago. When they come up and say this has to be done and has to be done immediately, there is no other way of doing it, you have to sit back and take a deep breath and nine times out of 10 they are not telling the truth,” he said.

“Congress abdicated its constitutional responsibility by signing a truly blank check over to the Treasury Secretary,” Inhofe added. “However, the lame duck session of Congress offers us a tremendous opportunity to change course. We should take it.” Inhofe wants a provision requiring an affirmative vote by Congress before the bankers can get their hands on the remaining $350 billion of bailout money.

The senator, however, is not optimistic the banker giveaway can be reversed. He is uncertain how much support he has among his Republican colleagues, and admits Democrat leaders could block any plan to reign in the Treasury. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid wants to use the upcoming lame duck session to to extend unemployment benefits and award multinational automotive corporations for their failures.
Atlas Shrugged is now playing at your local tv screen.
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Re: What is Real?

Post by Plasmatic » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:12 am

Indeed it is . And the causes are exactly the ones Rand exposed in her book. You wouldnt know them because you havent read anything by her. Your "Ayn Rand was a mistress to Philippe Rothschild!"
Is complete slander and has no support whatsoever. A strawman for the fact that your ignorance and hypoctisy on the forum has been biting you in the @^% .

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Re: What is Real?

Post by GaryN » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:39 pm

Bucky knew what was going on, that's why they 'buried' him. From Grunch of Giants:

http://www.bfi.org/?q=node/408
One of my many-years-ago friends, long since deceased, was a giant, a member of the Morgan family. He said to me: "Bucky, I am very fond of you, so I am sorry to have to tell you that you will never be a success. You go around explaining in simple terms that which people have not been comprehending, when the first law of success is, 'Never make things simple when you can make them complicated.'
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Re: What is Real?

Post by junglelord » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:17 pm

Bucky and I think alike on just about everything.
It is essential that anyone reading this book know at the outset that the author is apolitical. I was convinced in 1927 that humanity's most fundamental survival problems could never be solved by politics.
I agree 100%, I make better decisions for myself then any person can make for me.
I do not need someone to think for me. How can this ever work? It cannot.
I tell you what is real, the evil that plays the flute that we all seem to dance too.
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Re: What is Real?

Post by junglelord » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:50 pm

Free Thinking-Free Man on the Land!
A must see for all people that believe that Law is another language that is ment to keep the masses enmassed.
Sort of like Ayn Rand and her langugage.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=m ... ificent+de#
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